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Alexander ALLAN and family
« on: Tuesday 02 August 16 01:04 BST (UK) »
I finally found detailed obituaries for my husband's great grandma and family on Papers Past. The obituaries stated that Alexander Allan and family came to NZ aboard the "Helenslee" in 1864. They originally settled in Pokeno and were witness to many events of the early pioneers (at end of Maori Wars).
Alexander then apparently was at the opening of the Thames goldfield where he put down the Golden Gate Shaft. Then he was one of the original owners of the coal measures subsequently operated by the Taupiri Coal Mines at Huntly. Then he went onto to farm near Te Rapa before retiring to Papakura where he died in 1912. he is buried at Papakura with his second wife and a daughter from his first marriage.
This was a "brick wall" that I had been trying to break for some time.
Does anyone know any more about the Golden Gate shaft in its early days/ or the coal measures at Huntly?

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Re: Alexander ALLEN and family
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 01:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Mustang Sally,

You have posted to a topic on the New Zealand Resources Board.

I think you are likely to get more views and information if I split off your post and create a new topic for you and place it on the main New Zealand Board.

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PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
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Re: Alexander ALLAN and family
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 02:01 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Papers Past might provide the answers to some of your questions with articles such as this one;

Thames Advertiser, 11 September 1874, Page 3: WARDENS COURT.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THA18740911.2.14

The Thames Treasury website might also hold some information. They do charge for research.
http://www.thetreasury.org.nz/

Also search Archives New Zealand.
https://archway.archives.govt.nz/

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Re: Alexander ALLAN and family
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 03:12 BST (UK) »
An account of the voyage of the Helenslee together with her passenger list.......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/DSC18641223.2.4.1


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Alexander ALLAN and family
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 05:01 BST (UK) »
Huntly coal history...

Te Ara.
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato-places/page-4

Waikato Coalfields Museum. The museum staff might be able to assist further.
http://waikatocoalfieldsmuseum.weebly.com/

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Re: Alexander ALLAN and family
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 05:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the help.
I have only started using this site so your guidance is appreciated.
Thankyou minniehaha for the suggested Papers Past Sites.
The "Allan" family don't seem to have stayed in any place for long.
Alexander, the father, was a miner according another passenger list that I have seen. They were part of the "Waikato Immigration Scheme".
I think they were in Komakorau Waikato (near Gordonton) in 1881 per the Electoral Rolls.
 I believe Mary Allan passed away in 1880 and Alexander remarried a Mary Ann Wood in 1881.
Daughter , Ellen, married in 1891 at Allandale, Pukete in the Waikato to William Wallace.
William Wallace went on to do a lot of Community Volunteer work. He was Mayor of Birkenhead from 1912-1915, on the Auckland Harbour Board, the Chairman of the Auckland Hospital Board etc etc. He mixed with Michael Joseph Savage and even had a wing of the Auckland Hospital named after him.
I don't think Alexander Allan was as newsworthy.

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Re: Alexander ALLAN and family
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 06:02 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Do you have a Francis Bowen ALLEN in the family?

http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Cyc02Cycl-t1-body1-d1-d63-d35.html

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Re: Alexander ALLAN and family
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 06:13 BST (UK) »
Is the correct spelling ALLAN or ALLEN??

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.