1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca

[Annie65115]

I don't suppose the witness names for either of mary's marriages offer any clues?

[trish1120]

I is likely Rebecca was a Widow as the enumerator noted, Yes, it is crossed out as it was not allowed to put status in 1841 (you will find numerous entries in 1841 Census all over England that Widow has been crossed out).

[bitzar]

Annie.... great thought.  On her second marriage in 1844 at Leicester Register Office, there is George Sparrow and Ann Unwin, both sign with marks.  These names mean nothing to me.  I dont have the first MC in 1822.  I don't even know if a cert is available for 1822 or what it would tell me.

I am still reluctant to post Mary's name as there have been various posts about this family.  As far as I know I am the only one who may have crack this.... with all you peoples great assistance of couse.  I'm not doing it to be selfish but I'd like to get a bit more surety first if poss.  You know what'll happen...... lots of tree's on Anc* with WRONG info!  My tree is on private because it contains a lot of maybe's and possibilities that other punters take for gospel. 

What would I actually expect to find on the 1822 MC?!

bitzar.

and Trish.... thanks for that confirmation.

[Jomot]

It seems Castle Donnington is a bit of a distance but William was a labourer of some description so he could of easily of been working away.  Do you think the record still would of read 'of Castle Donnington' even if he was just working there and didn't live there?!

It may not be him as I've found another William Simpkin in & around the Castle Donington area at the relevant time, although he was a farmer & publican so it would seem odd to describe him as a labourer in his will 

But to answer your question, we don't know for sure where the family was living prior to 1841.  There are the three baptisms in Woodhouse and then (unless I've missed something) nothing until the possible late baptism of Amy in 1837.  Woodhouse Eaves & Castle Donington are only about 14 miles apart, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility.   Finding the baptisms for Fanny & William might help.

[Annie65115]

The 1822 very won't give fathers names, but will have witness signatures (or marks).

[Jomot]

The 1822 very won't give fathers names, but will have witness signatures (or marks).

I'm pretty sure I know which marriage you refer to (I recognise the groom's surname) but my transcript only shows one witness, who was on the grooms side (Martha).  If anyone else has St Margaret's the marriage was on 11 Aug 1822.

[bitzar]

You're good Annie..... 

I believe Martha was his sister, but cannot confirm!  You will also see WHY the family have hit the brickwall for sooooooo many years.  This wasn't discovered until it was found that Mary remarried and the correct surname found.

So back to it.... We still need to find the baptisms for:

1. Fanny Simpkin. bc1814 Woodhouse.
2. William Simpkin. bc1823 Woodhouse Eaves.
3. Elizabeth Simpkin. bc1832 Woodhouse.

Thanks team

bitz

[willsy]

I looked at census returns and marriages, found this one!!!

Woodhouse   26-Mar   1826   B   
John   Unwin   OTP            
Ann   Simkin   OTP

[bitzar]

Geez Willsy

This would be Ann Simpkin, Mary's sister, baptised Woodhouse 1808.  I couldn't previously find a marriage for her.

Finding her also confirms to me that the Amy/Ann combo IS actually Amy, and that Amy was transcribed incorrectly on the census as Ann.

I will try to do some more checks on her.

Many thanks

bitz.