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Re: 1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca
« Reply #63 on: Monday 08 August 16 19:21 BST (UK) »
William Astle Simpkin's will is available on Ancestry!

and -

it confirms it's not him   :(

(This WS was from Thurmaston, a gentleman, with property and a wife called Diana  >:()


OTOH the "index to death duty register" has something for William of Castle Donnington.

Name William Simpkin
Residence Castle Donnington Leicester
Executors John Simpkin &an of  same place
Court  Leicester
 Register 2
Folio 237

John Simpkin, of Castle Donnington, is the only extra info here. Off to see if I can see him in the 1841 --

added - the Castle Donington Simpkins look like artisans; John Simpkin in 1841 was a shoemaker, age 50, with Martha 55 and Mary 18; on the same page is Thomas Simpkin age 3, tailor, with Mary 25 and Jane 2. Subsequent censuses show his birthplace as Hemington.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: 1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca
« Reply #64 on: Monday 08 August 16 19:50 BST (UK) »
Bitzar,

Have you noticed that Mary is living on the same street as Rebecca and Fanny in 1841?
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: 1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca
« Reply #65 on: Monday 08 August 16 23:11 BST (UK) »
Went back to the 3 whose baptisms we need, Fanny, William, Elizabeth

Looks like Col(e)beck is on the Woolley side

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7B6-LZD

1861 Fanny with children....? Mark

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M78V-YJ8

Think this is Mark's death

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2J8F-6RC

buried at Welford Road but nothing to go on there except the middle name which is only in the death reg!

Looking at the marriage of Elizabeth Simkin 1860 in Leicester, it was to Benjamin Repton, they are in Loughborough, not sure about this one, census for them

1861

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7RB-VWR

Don't think I'm helping much with William either but

1861

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7TF-2JP

1871

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFTK-3NM

1881

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKX8-RDG8
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: 1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca
« Reply #66 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 00:13 BST (UK) »
Willsy....  Benjamin Repton looks like the right one doesn't he.  It also appears that Elizabeth's eldest was base born.... John Simpkin.

Jomot...  Enjoy your hols.  We just had a week in Thailand to get away from this cold.  It worked while it lasted!  I had noticed the address on the 1841.... It was another Blimey moment.  But we will see, even though I'm feeling confident.   ;D

Annie.... So this John Simpkin could be a bro to William.  From memory there is also another Simpkin lurking around with a similar birth year.

I will try to work out that will today.

Ta.

Bitzar

ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England


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Re: 1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca
« Reply #67 on: Saturday 13 August 16 07:23 BST (UK) »
 :'( :'( :'(

Bad new folks....

A beautiful person was able to check the 1839 Will of William Simpkin of Donnington Castle....  He's not mine.  Wife Ann... Children, Thomas, John, and Jane.

Bitz.
ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: 1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca
« Reply #68 on: Saturday 13 August 16 09:05 BST (UK) »
Bother!

Still, ruling out can be useful!
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: 1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 17 August 16 10:38 BST (UK) »
:'( :'( :'(

Bad new folks....

A beautiful person was able to check the 1839 Will of William Simpkin of Donnington Castle....  He's not mine.  Wife Ann... Children, Thomas, John, and Jane.

Bitz.

Oh that's a shame.  Just got back from holiday and was hoping the will would have tied it all up nicely, especially with John and Ann Unwin baptising two children at Castle Donnington.   :(
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: 1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 18 August 16 03:46 BST (UK) »
It was a huge shame Jomot.  I am yet to go through and have a look at if there could be typo's... ie SIMKIN.

The other 2 William Simpkin's are ruled out.  William Astle Simpkin was married to Diana, and William Simpkin of Blaby seems to young.  I'm yet to look through Annie's list of WS's.

bitzar.

EDIT - I hope the hols were great!
ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: 1841 Census - SIMPKIN / Rebecca
« Reply #71 on: Tuesday 02 May 17 09:32 BST (UK) »
UPDATE:

The other witness besides Ann UNWIN on the 1844 marriage of John and Mary was George SPARROW.  NOW, there was a George SPARROW in the Leicester Jail with one of the John COX's on the 1841.  I feel confident now that this narrow's the search down to the correct John COX but other than that I've nothing more to report.

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England