Mary Kelly 1830 Lanarkshire

[graceb063]

Yes Rosie that is my Mary.

[graceb063]

Including this here to compare the other writing in case someone can make out the name of the Mother, Mary ??

Barly, Baily?

[Ruskie]

Grace, did you mean to add the image to this thread or your other thread?

Just a question. Do you know what occupation Mary's father James had? Looking at the 1841 Scottish census there is a family in Glasgow with father James who is a Tailor, and daughter Mary born about 1830, but the mother looks to be Ann rathmer than Maria. Probably not your family, but the only one with a father James.

Presumably you have searched for Mary (possibly at home) with parents in 1841?

I'm guessing it probably won't be long before your Kellys lead you to Ireland. 

[Ruskie]

I've had a look at the OPRs for births between 1825 and 1835 in Glasgow, with child's forename blank, and father's name James. There are several James Kellys. Their wives are:

Margaret Maxwell
Margaret McGeachie
Jean Craig
Margaret Fraser
Ann Murdock Johnston
Helen Arbuckle
Bridget Alexander
Ann Lindsay

I realise nine of these are (probably) your James but just so you can keep track of other families in the area,

CPR baptisms at Glasgow St Andrew between 1825 and 1835 show no births for father James and mother Maria, and two births for father James, mother Mary - the one you already have in 1829 with mmn Barly, and one in 11-2-1827 for a George, father James, mother Mary Baily. There may be more if you extend the search years.

[graceb063]

Not sure where I should have added the image, which is the best thread? Im still a beginner.

I have seen that 1841 census months ago then dismissed it because of name Ann.   I just cant seem to find anything definate to confirm her correct parents and birth.   

With so many Kelly's its hard to get the correct person. 

No clue at all about James.  Of all the family research I have done this is the hardest of them all. 

I was hoping to find Marys return of death cert from Boston like the 1 I have for her husband Thomas and it has parents full names but all I have so far is the vital records that lists all the deaths for that year. 

Interesting about George.  Thats what I will do next extend the search years to find more siblings and go from there.

Thank you

[rosie17]

I wondered about this census record 1841 address  Crofthead Neilston Renfrewshire this was the area she was in and her husband Thomas ....also her place of marriage but she is not with  not with a James or a Mary ?
 Margaret Kelly age 40 ( This 3 all born Ireland )
Sarah Kelly age 45
John Kelly age 15
Mary Kelly age 11 born Renfrewshire
Mary Benny age 8 born Renfrewshire

Do you have a copy of the OPR Marriage Record  to see if it mentions anything sometimes you are lucky it might give the name of the house they were married from
Rosie 

[graceb063]

The first record I have of them in Crofthead is 1851 census. 
Mary Black
Age   21
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1830
Relationship   Wife
Gender   Female
Where born   Glasgow, Lanark
Parish Number   572
Civil parish   Neilston
Town   Crofthead
County   Renfrewshire
Address   Crofthead

Marriage record only states Neilston Manse. 

I did widen the search years for births and there are 5 others I might get a lead from surname of mother spelt different ways Barly,Baly and Bailee. 

Im at a loss where to look next.  I will give these possible children a look and see if I come up with anything.   

[Ruskie]

Those maiden surnames look similar enough to be the same mother. Worth investigating in case it helps find them in a family group in the census, or if you can find a sibling for Mary, maybe their birth marriage or death record will help.

I couldn't see a Catholic marriage for James and Mary Baily, but it would be worth others checking in case I missed something.

I couldn't see an obvious George Kelly bc 1827 in the 1841 census. Once again, I would advise you checking for yourself in case I missed him. I thought George might be an easier name to find than Mary. A lot of those Kellys have the same forenames which makes the search even harder.

As they are Catholic,  maybe they're Irish and maybe married in Ireland .... 

[graceb063]

I did just come across another death index for Mary Black and lists her parents as James and Marian. 

Back to the drawing board and start with Marian.  Whoever put in Maria simply left of the n. 

Thank you for all the help.  I need to step away for a bit and come back fresh again tomorrow.  Start the search all over again.   Might also look at Ireland for James.

How common was it for Catholics and Presbyterian?