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« on: Wednesday 10 August 16 19:28 BST (UK) »
I found mention of an ancestor under return of medals returned. This was a Crimea Medal. What does this mean,
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Re: medals returned
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 20:24 BST (UK) »
possibly he didn't want a reminder of his time out there or had died in the interim , would you care to post a name and date and place of birth for him we could do a look up see if anything comes up to help you .
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Re: medals returned
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 August 16 04:56 BST (UK) »
His name was Jonathon Targoose, born 1830 Holbeach Lincolnshire.He appears in the 1851 census as an 18 year old private in the 38th regiment at Chester Castle Barracks.
I have his baptism and the 1841 census.
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Re: medals returned
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 August 16 07:35 BST (UK) »
Firstly make sure it says Ret or similar and not just R. The latter means he was still with the regiment when they were supplied for distribution. Ret means it was returned to the Medal Office as he had been discharged and they did not know his address.

Kings Regulations just before WW1 was that the Medal Office would keep it for ten years before recycling it. If would have been similar in Victoria's time. There does not appear to be a record for him on FIndmypast. So he would not have served long enough to receive a pension. So you will have to go to the National Archives and look at the musters for the dates he served, and why he was discharged.

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Re: medals returned
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 August 16 18:24 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your suggestions. The list is headed Return of Returned 38th Regiment.
There is his name, the next column is blank (for rank possibly private) the next is also blank (regimental# possibly 4209)then ditto marks for Crimea, last column for remarks also blank.
Unfortunately a visit to the National Archives is not possible, since I live in Canada.
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Re: medals returned
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 August 16 21:21 BST (UK) »
My Grandad returned his own medals so that is another option for you to consider.

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Re: medals returned
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 September 16 08:09 BST (UK) »
He is on the medal roll with the Regimental Number of 3040. He was entitled to battle clasps on this medal for Alma, Inkerman & Sebastopol, the roll seems to suggest that his medal was sent to the War Office (W.O.)

You might find this site of interest: http://marksimner.me.uk/the-38th-1st-staffordshire-regiment-of-foot-in-the-crimean-war/

Martin