2 Brixham Queries

[KevinSmith]

I have two questions
Firstly I've come to a bit of a dead end trying to track down my maternal grandfathers early life and parentage as it would appear he and his siblings were born out of wedlock.
He possibly spent some of his childhood at the BSO Boys' Home in Brixham when his mother married a Mr Morey.
It would seem he was originally named Andrew Henry Salter on the 1911 census, his mother being Eliza Bessie Salter from Torbryan. He was known as Robert Andrew Salter born in July 1907

Secondly are there any employment records available relating to Berry Head Quarry as I believe my other grandfather worked there for a period of time - Percival Jack Thomas Smith dob 13.5.1915

[CaroleW]

Welcome to Rootschat

Eliza B Salter married Alfred Morey June qtr 1914 Totnes volume 5b   page 433  per www.freebmd.org.uk

Births September qtr 1907      
Andrew Robert Salter      Totnes    5b   131   

[CaroleW]

If his birth cert does not show a fathers name - your only hope is if he has named a father on his marriage cert.  However - if he gives his fathers surname as Salter - it is fictitious.

[suzard]

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It would seem he was originally named Andrew Henry Salter on the 1911 census, his mother being Eliza Bessie Salter from Torbryan. He was known as Robert Andrew Salter born in July 1907

Maybe Andrew's name was misentered I  1911???

His birth reg reads
FreeBMD
Andrew Robert Salter July/Aug/Spt qtr 1907 Totnes reg district

His name is Andrew Robert Salter on his Navy records too.

Also it looks like his Grandmother was b.Torbryan and his mother was b Totnes

You could look for a baptism record to see if father's name is included or purchase the birth certificate to see if there is a name entered there - in majority of cases the father's name is left blank
He had a younger brother named Henry so possibly Andrew's middle name was entered (in error)as that of his brother.

Suz

[[Ray]]

Hi

What was the original starting point for your query?
His marriage?
A birth certificate? Whose?

What documentation do you have?


Why are Rootshatters making disguised remarks about data on 1911 census?


Ray

[CaroleW]

Did you notice that somebody has reported a full name for her mother on the 1911 entry?  Entry shows Hannah and amendment as Hannah Maria nee White

You could contact them to see what connection they have to the family

[suzard]

names seem a little altered on census ??

Andrew 's mother was supposedly Eliza Bessie Salter
Her birth was registered as
FreeBMD
Bessie Eliza Salter Jun qtr 1884 Totnes 5b 193

1891 census she is entered as Eliza
1901 Eliza B

her mother is entered as 1891 Anna 1901 Ann Maria

1891 Colly End Paignton
Anna Salter head 50 married  charwoman Torbryan Devon
Thomas H son 14 Errand boy Totnes
Sarah daughter 8 scholar Totnes
ELIZA daughter 6 scholar Totnes
Winnifred daughter 3 scholar Totnes
RG12 1707 109 23

1901
6 Naomi Terrace Paignton
Ann Maria Salter Head widow 62 Domestic servant Torbrynne
ELIZA B daughter single 17  Domestic servant Totnes
RG13 2063 87 11

I will see if I can find birth reg's for Eliza's family

Suz

[..claire..]

Hi Kevin
Welcome to RootsChat 

His baptism record

Andrew Robert baptized 1st April 1910 son of Eliza Bessie Salter.
Abode: Gerston Place
Occ: Singlewoman

DOB: 2 July 1908 ~ must be an error, but this is in the register

[..claire..]

School admission register: Admitted: 21 April 1914

Father given as Hy Salter
Address: 2 Gerston Place
His DoB:  2 July 1907

Last school he was at : Curledge Street Infants.

He was withdrawn from the school on the 11th October 1918,
Cause of leaving: Industrial School