the mallens

[keyboard86]

martha looks like she married a simmons in 1864 in Wolverhampton so were both bigamists
kath

Well the Martha Mallen 24 who married a William Simmonds shows as a Spinster Father Edward Mallen?

EDIT This looks indeed to be Martha as in 1871 as Simmons there is a Rose Simmons 11 b Staffordshire with new siblings
Census ref RG10/4242/114/22

Rosannah Simmonds 21 b Bilston in 1881 Census
RG11/4001/49/92

I hope you don't mind, but their was so much more information you could have provided us to cut all this searching out?
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[heywood]

As I wrote earlier, there are several Joseph Mallens - with variations in spelling of the surname.

Presumably, the one who married Holy Davies is the right one and his father was Daniel and Eliza is the daughter of Joseph and Holy.

Is that right so far?

Oh - and now Martha Mallen Simmons is not correct - or not part of this?

[keyboard86]

Hi Heywood,  the one who married Holy had father Daniel occ Furnace Man, same as previously.
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PS possibly Martha "Made a Fathers name up"

[heywood]

Yes, I was thinking that could be the case.

[keyboard86]

Hi again, so if Rosannah is the child of Joseph and Martha, why was no fathers name shown at her marriage?
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[heywood]

This might be Daniel's baptism

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBT4-2YM

[keyboard86]

Hi again, and Sarah:-

Sarah POOLTON 10th September 1797 Kingswinford Father Wm Mother Sarah
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[keyboard86]

Hi again did Eliza Mallen marry John Henry Smith 1887 Birmingham, if so is she the Eliza Malen aged 12 b Liverpool with siblings aged 9 to 2 b Birmingham with a George 40 b Bilston and Eliza 33 (No pob)
RG11/2999/20/34

1891 has a Joseph Mallen 51 Widower b Bilston in West Bromwich with a John H Smith and Elizabeth? ( Eliza 1901)
Census ref RG12/2273/7/8

Or are these two different families?
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[keyboard86]

Hi again did Eliza Mallen marry John Henry Smith 1887 Birmingham, if so is she the Eliza Malen aged 12 b Liverpool with siblings aged 9 to 2 b Birmingham with a George 40 b Bilston and Eliza 33 (No pob)
RG11/2999/20/34

1891 has a Joseph Mallen 51 Widower b Bilston in West Bromwich with a John H Smith and Elizabeth? ( Eliza 1901)
Census ref RG12/2273/7/8

Or are these two different families?
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OK a Hollie Mallin married a Christopher Rooney December 1899 West Bromwich but seems to be with him in 1891 as Ann, with some of the children of the George and Eliza above?
RG12/2431/82/27

Her Christian name changes in 1901 but Holiann? in 1911 and death as Holiann Rooney September qtr 1916 Aston 6d 508 aged 67

HOBY Davis b June 1848 Dudley 18 296
1891 Primrose Hill 1851 Primrose Hill
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