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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 18 August 16 11:29 BST (UK) »
I agree, two separate Alexander Olleys. As a mariner, quite likely to be away from home a lot. His father Jacob has a number of records so he is real - mercant seaman, marriage in Wivenhoe to Mahala Ellis, Found him on a couple of censuses.

Thank you Lizziel,

The family that Ladyhawk has listed are all mine,but once again no evidence of a marriage by Alexander & Martha. There were marriages between the families of Bunn & Olley but apparently not these two. You have all worked hard on this but I think this may be the end of the road .
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Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 18 August 16 11:42 BST (UK) »

There were marriages between the families of Bunn & Olley but apparently not these two.

You have all worked hard on this but I think this may be the end of the road .


I just posting this whilst red writing

No help with Martha’s BUNN’s marriage I'm afraid  :(
did she have a brother named James Bunn?

It would appear that the
Mary Ann Sebrina OLLEY that married 25 Jan 1891 Stody Norfolk to
James BUNN

Is the sister of  Alexander Olley daughter of James Olley & Eliza

Having looked again this morning I came to the same conclusion that the other
Alexander William Olley was probably a different person  :(

Have you thought about obtaining the birth certificate of Charles James William Bunn
to see where they were living at the time and confirming his mother's name?

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 18 August 16 11:49 BST (UK) »

There were marriages between the families of Bunn & Olley but apparently not these two.

You have all worked hard on this but I think this may be the end of the road .


I just posting this whilst red writing

No help with Martha’s BUNN’s marriage I'm afraid  :(
did she have a brother named James Bunn?

It would appear that the
Mary Ann Sebrina OLLEY that married 25 Jan 1891 Stody Norfolk to
James BUNN

Is the sister of  Alexander Olley daughter of James Olley & Eliza

Having looked again this morning I came to the same conclusion that the other
Alexander William Olley was probably a different person  :(

Have you thought about obtaining the birth certificate of Charles James William Bunn
to see where they were living at the time and confirming his mother's name?

Yes if you see my return post I have just sent to Ladyhawk you will see that Mary Ann Sebina Olley (sister of Alexander) did in fact marry James Bunn who was a brother of Martha.

I no longer purchase certs as I can no longer afford to plus I have had some that never arrived here in Spain.

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Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 18 August 16 11:54 BST (UK) »
I don't know if this has anything to do with your Bunn & Olley family
but thought I'd post because of their names, both baptism on same day
but it doesn't give their year of birth
 
Transcription details from England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Charles James William BUNN
Baptism date   08 Feb 1905
Residence    Irlam, Lancashire, England
Mother's first name   Eliza BUNN

Lancashire OPC has Baptism: 8 Feb 1905 St John the Baptist, Irlam, Lancashire, England
Charles James William Bunn - [Child] of Eliza Bunn,    Abode: Irlam

Alexander James Frederick OLLEY
Baptism date   08 Feb 1905
Residence    Irlam, Lancashire, England
Father's name   Alexander Olley
Mother's name   Eliza Olley



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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 18 August 16 12:38 BST (UK) »
I don't know if this has anything to do with your Bunn & Olley family
but thought I'd post because of their names, both baptism on same day
but it doesn't give their year of birth
 
Transcription details from England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Charles James William BUNN
Baptism date   08 Feb 1905
Residence    Irlam, Lancashire, England
Mother's first name   Eliza BUNN

Lancashire OPC has Baptism: 8 Feb 1905 St John the Baptist, Irlam, Lancashire, England
Charles James William Bunn - [Child] of Eliza Bunn,    Abode: Irlam

Alexander James Frederick OLLEY
Baptism date   08 Feb 1905
Residence    Irlam, Lancashire, England
Father's name   Alexander Olley
Mother's name   Eliza Olley

Thank you so much for this:
 Charles James William Bunn was b.1893  Newcastle died 8 March 1916 Al Basra,Iraq.

 Alexander James Frederick Olley my Grandfather was born 3rd April 1896 - 5 Suez Street Basford ,Notts. Died Irlam 3rd August 1923.

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Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 18 August 16 13:52 BST (UK) »
Their younger sister Mary Hannah Easter Olley was baptised at same place on 12 Dec 1904, only 2 months earlier - why not get them all baptised together?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 18 August 16 14:21 BST (UK) »
Their younger sister Mary Hannah Easter Olley was baptised at same place on 12 Dec 1904, only 2 months earlier - why not get them all baptised together?

I agree that is really strange.I wonder if the boys asked if they had been baptised & said they would like to be.
It is odd really because my Mums eldest sister (one of Alexander James Frederick Olleys daughters) was not baptised until just before her marriage when she was 17yrs. Mum & her younger sister had already been baptised within months of birth.Gosh I have got a really odd lot here!!
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Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 18 August 16 19:02 BST (UK) »
Alexander Olley b.Hunworth 25 June 1859 -Railway platelayer .Parents:James & Elizabeth Olley nee Knowles

Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn b.Holt June 1873 - Parents:James William Bone/Bunn & Esther Hannah Bunn nee Scott

I have all the details of my Gt Grandparents  which are needed except that of their marriage.


Is this just a coincidence or do you think there is any connection here to your
Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn?


note the year of this marriage between George & Ann

19 Jan 1903 St Luke, Weaste, Lancashire, England
George Arthur Kellett - 33 Engineer Gaythorne Kellett, Boilermaker
131 Bridson St.
Ann Bunn - 17 James Bunn, occ Boatman
131 Bridson St.
Witness: Moses Bunn; Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn

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Hi bettyespana Re: your reply #36

You quoted the above info. I posted but there doesn't appear to be a reply from you

So do you think there maybe a connection here to your Martha S E E Bunn/Bone?
May just be a coincidence that the person above has exactly the same name as your Martha  :-\

If that is the same Martha in 1903 if she was married to Alexander Olley I would have thought
her surname should read Olley rather than Bunn, so would possibly suggest that she had not married him.


oops just modified the wrong post  ::)

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 18 August 16 19:05 BST (UK) »
Here's another baptism from Lancashire OPC surname HOLLY

25 Apr 1902 St John the Baptist, Irlam, Lancs.
Eliza Holly - [Child] of Alexander Holly Occ. Labourer & Martha Eliza Sarah
Abode: Irlam
Notes: P [in the margin]
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