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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #54 on: Friday 19 August 16 15:06 BST (UK) »
Alexander Olley b.Hunworth 25 June 1859 -Railway platelayer .Parents:James & Elizabeth Olley nee Knowles

Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn b.Holt June 1873 - Parents:James William Bone/Bunn & Esther Hannah Bunn nee Scott

I have all the details of my Gt Grandparents  which are needed except that of their marriage.

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Is this just a coincidence or do you think there is any connection here to your
Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn?


note the year of this marriage between George & Ann

19 Jan 1903 St Luke, Weaste, Lancashire, England
George Arthur Kellett - 33 Engineer Gaythorne Kellett, Boilermaker
131 Bridson St.
Ann Bunn - 17 James Bunn, occ Boatman
131 Bridson St.
Witness: Moses Bunn; Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn

Hi bettyespana Re: your reply #36

You quoted the above info. I posted but there doesn't appear to be a reply from you

So do you think there maybe a connection here to your Martha S E E Bunn/Bone?
May just be a coincidence that the person above has exactly the same name as your Martha  :-\

If that is the same Martha in 1903 if she was married to Alexander Olley I would have thought
her surname should read Olley rather than Bunn, so would possibly suggest that she had not married him.




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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #55 on: Friday 19 August 16 15:40 BST (UK) »
Alexander Olley b.Hunworth 25 June 1859 -Railway platelayer .Parents:James & Elizabeth Olley nee Knowles

Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn b.Holt June 1873 - Parents:James William Bone/Bunn & Esther Hannah Bunn nee Scott

I have all the details of my Gt Grandparents  which are needed except that of their marriage.

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Is this just a coincidence or do you think there is any connection here to your
Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn?


note the year of this marriage between George & Ann

19 Jan 1903 St Luke, Weaste, Lancashire, England
George Arthur Kellett - 33 Engineer Gaythorne Kellett, Boilermaker
131 Bridson St.
Ann Bunn - 17 James Bunn, occ Boatman
131 Bridson St.
Witness: Moses Bunn; Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn

Hi bettyespana Re: your reply #36

You quoted the above info. I posted but there doesn't appear to be a reply from you

So do you think there maybe a connection here to your Martha S E E Bunn/Bone?
May just be a coincidence that the person above has exactly the same name as your Martha  :-\

If that is the same Martha in 1903 if she was married to Alexander Olley I would have thought
her surname should read Olley rather than Bunn, so would possibly suggest that she had not married him.

Apologies Ladyhawk but I did reply last evening as I thought but it hasn't appeared.I must'nt have pressed the post button.
I am sure this must be the same Martha as daughter Mary married Frank F W Bunn her 1st cousin who was a waterman also. Frank F W was the son of Martha's brother Walter John Frederick Bunn b.1876  Holt. & Georgina Bush.
The marriage of George Kellet & Ann Bunn where she was a witness was in 1903 so I too think she should have signed as Olley had she married Alexander Olley prior to that date.Especially when they had children together.
Irlam where the Olleys ended up now comes under Salford.

Going back to James Olleys marriage cert where it states he was a Gamekeeper I have just noticed that it has the signature of James Bulwer(Rector) as the incumbent.
The Bulwers were the owners of Heydon Hall & seemingly Bluestone Hall is part of the estate where the Carmans lived with James Olley as a boarder.
I googled Bluestone Hall up & it is only a small place to have a Gamekeeper & the Carmans were only Ag Labs.So I wonder if it was used as living acc.for the staff of Heydon Hall.
I myself lived in a " Hall" when I was younger which was part of Worsley Old Hall but it was only divided in to 4 cottages.
betty
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #56 on: Monday 13 February 17 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Good Morning,

WOW!! I have just started my journey searching into my ancestry and I can not believe my eyes!
Frank Frederick William Bunn is my great grandfather. I have a very grand looking photo of him aged 16 in his uniform looking very proud, when he joined the army. He moved to Urmston where he and his wife had 2 children my great uncle Bill (William) and my grandma (Maureen). I have been told that not only does the surname Olley appear in the family but the surname Otler!? I was wondering if anyone had come across this name whilst doing their search?

All your information posted on here is amazing and will help me with my family tree so much.

Kindest regards,

Lisa

Purcell Purcel Pursall Persel
Hatton
Hodgson
Bunn
Olley
Jones
Evans
Perry Parry
Anderson
Scott
Dod, Dodd

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #57 on: Monday 13 February 17 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Betty,

Forgive the public reply, unfortunately I am unable to send you a private message :( . Thank you so much for your message, I actually can not believe I have managed to locate so much information so far, and to be able to speak to another family member is the cherry on the cake! I have managed to go back 5 generations to date and like you have most definitely got the bug! Some of the stories I am coming across are amazing.

I have been given by my aunt some amazing photographs, as I stated there's a photo of Frank sat with another gentleman behind him both looking so proud in their uniforms, I have no idea who it is though. Other pictures she sent me are of Walter and Violet with Peggy as a girl, taken at the time my Uncle Bill came to stay for a while. I also have a photo here of a gentleman looking smart in his suit, my aunt has put his name on the back as Alec Olley. One is really scary to look at as it could have been me at that age!

I would love further assistance, really kind of you to offer.

Thank you again, hope to hear from you soon.

Lisa :D
Purcell Purcel Pursall Persel
Hatton
Hodgson
Bunn
Olley
Jones
Evans
Perry Parry
Anderson
Scott
Dod, Dodd


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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #58 on: Monday 13 February 17 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Betty,

Forgive the public reply, unfortunately I am unable to send you a private message :( . Thank you so much for your message, I actually can not believe I have managed to locate so much information so far, and to be able to speak to another family member is the cherry on the cake! I have managed to go back 5 generations to date and like you have most definitely got the bug! Some of the stories I am coming across are amazing.

I have been given by my aunt some amazing photographs, as I stated there's a photo of Frank sat with another gentleman behind him both looking so proud in their uniforms, I have no idea who it is though. Other pictures she sent me are of Walter and Violet with Peggy as a girl, taken at the time my Uncle Bill came to stay for a while. I also have a photo here of a gentleman looking smart in his suit, my aunt has put his name on the back as Alec Olley. One is really scary to look at as it could have been me at that age!

I would love further assistance, really kind of you to offer.

Thank you again, hope to hear from you soon.

Lisa :D

Lisa,

I will send you a PM with my e.mail address.

Betty
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #59 on: Monday 13 February 17 17:06 GMT (UK) »
For info. searching the GRO indexes you are now provided with the mother's maiden name you just need to register with the GRO
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Birth of James Charles W A Bunn 1892 2nd quarter Newcastle upon Tyne

James Charles William Alexander BUNN mmn ALLEY     - could be a mistake with 'A'  :-\
1892  J Quarter in Newcastle Upon Tyne  Volume 10B  Page 57

Alexander Charles J W Bunn 1893 1st quarter Newcastle upon Tyne
   

The mother's name has been left blank on this GRO index
so you would assume that he's illegitimate

Alexander Charles James William BUNN   
1893  M Quarter in Newcastle upon Tyne Volume 10B  Page 65   

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Alexander Olley b.Hunworth 25 June 1859 -Railway platelayer .
Parents:James & Elizabeth Olley nee Knowles

Alexander OLLEY mmn KNOWLES     
1859  S Quarter in Erpingham  Volume 04B  Page 65   

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Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza Bunn b.Holt June 1873 -
Parents:James William Bone/Bunn & Esther Hannah Bunn nee Scott

Martha Sarah Ellen Eliza BONE mmn SCOTT    
1873  J Quarter in Erpingham Volume 04B  Page 70   

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Alexander James Frederick Olley b. Basford Notts 1896

Alexander James Frederick OLLEY mmn BUNN     
1896  J Quarter in Basford Volume 07B  Page 210   

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Mary Hannah E Olley b.1900 Salford.

Mary Hannah Easter OLLEY mmn BUNN     
1900  J Quarter in Salford  Volume 08D  Page 181   


Frank Frederick William Bunn is my great grandfather.


Frank Frederick William BUNN mnn BUSH 
1899  D Quarter in ERPINGHAM  Volume 04B  Page 77

Lisa Conley nee Purcell Welcome to Rootschat  :)

Was your Frank the son of Walter John F BUNN who married Georgiana BUSH in Mitford 1895?

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Re: Were either of my Gt Grandparents already married?
« Reply #60 on: Sunday 26 March 17 18:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Ladyhawk,

I'm so sorry I didn't see this post until now :( Thank you so much all the information provided has been a huge help to me and my Bunn lineage. I am well and truly hooked! To answer your question (again sorry so late) Walter is my Grt Grt Grandfather :)

Lisa
Purcell Purcel Pursall Persel
Hatton
Hodgson
Bunn
Olley
Jones
Evans
Perry Parry
Anderson
Scott
Dod, Dodd