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Unidentified Tipstaff Coat of Arms
« on: Wednesday 17 August 16 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have a very nice tipstaff but no one seems to recognise the coat of Arms. Can you help?


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Re: Unidentified Tipstaff Coat of Arms
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 August 16 22:15 BST (UK) »
The ox over water is the coat-of-arms of Oxford City.

Maybe Oxford police?
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Re: Unidentified Tipstaff Coat of Arms
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 August 16 22:38 BST (UK) »
University of Oxford.
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
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Re: Unidentified Tipstaff Coat of Arms
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 August 16 22:54 BST (UK) »
University of Oxford.
??? Nothing like it!

The arms of the University of Oxford feature an open book, between 3 crowns, on a blue background.

Or, if you prefer the heraldic blazon:
Azure, upon a book open proper, leathered gules, garnished or, having on the dexter side seven seals of the last, the words DOMINVS ILLVMINATIO MEA; all between three open crowns, two and one, or.

Rather than guessing (invariably wrong!), try doing a bit of research.
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Re: Unidentified Tipstaff Coat of Arms
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 August 16 23:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you! Mentioning Oxford narrows things down a bit but googling images for Oxford does not show anything with three anchors and two crowns.  :-\

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Re: Unidentified Tipstaff Coat of Arms
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 August 16 06:42 BST (UK) »
I am coming up blank, too! :-\

I can't find any other Civic Heraldry that uses the ox over water (a ford!); so I am confident it relates to Oxford somehow.

Could the anchors somehow relate to a River Authority? Or maybe River Police?

I have searched online, but nothing is coming up. Sorry!
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Re: Unidentified Tipstaff Coat of Arms
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 August 16 09:57 BST (UK) »
University of Oxford.
??? Nothing like it!

The arms of the University of Oxford feature an open book, between 3 crowns, on a blue background.

Or, if you prefer the heraldic blazon:
Azure, upon a book open proper, leathered gules, garnished or, having on the dexter side seven seals of the last, the words DOMINVS ILLVMINATIO MEA; all between three open crowns, two and one, or.

Rather than guessing (invariably wrong!), try doing a bit of research.
          I did some research   and I came up with a lead to Oxford University.

Research on Wikipedia  can often produce incorrect details, I find.
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Re: Unidentified Tipstaff Coat of Arms
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 August 16 11:19 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for your efforts it is much appreciated! I am a complete novice to Heraldry and such like although I am now taking much more interest in the subject since my Father passed away last December. He was a big collector of police memorabilia, and heraldry etc is used in so many ways in the forces. You are welcome to take a look at a site I have dedicated to him, found here http://alan.swain.me.uk/

The mention of river police is a good suggestion as there being 'anchors' in the coat of arms although I am not sure of the use of crowns. I did find three crowns relating to the Bishop of Oxford. Was/is there a Bishops Palace like we have here in Peterborough? A Church Wardens tipstaff? Cathedral related??

Universities, yes, colleges, how many of them are there and have any been sold in the past or ceased to exist?

Dating the tipstaff at a very rough guess, I'd put it at say 1850 possibly earlier. Universities did indeed use them surprisingly, as I have one of my fathers for Cambridge, reference number 15 here... http://alan.swain.me.uk/truncheons.htm

Hopefully some of the ideas here will get viewers of this thread to chip in. The Tipstaff certainly is a genuine item and someone somewhere would know just what it was used for and where. Thanks again!

Laurence.

Edit: Just a little more info, the coat of arms is on a 'silver' curved disc mounted on the wooden baton, just incase one wonders what the black stains are.

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Re: Unidentified Tipstaff Coat of Arms
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 August 16 11:25 BST (UK) »
I also did some googling and failed to find anything similar.

University of Oxford.
??? Nothing like it!

The arms of the University of Oxford feature an open book, between 3 crowns, on a blue background.

Or, if you prefer the heraldic blazon:
Azure, upon a book open proper, leathered gules, garnished or, having on the dexter side seven seals of the last, the words DOMINVS ILLVMINATIO MEA; all between three open crowns, two and one, or.

Rather than guessing (invariably wrong!), try doing a bit of research.
          I did some research   and I came up with a lead to Oxford University.

Research on Wikipedia  can often produce incorrect details, I find.

Scouseboy, I'm afraid I find this difficult to believe, but if you would care to provide a link to the research you did which led you to Oxford University, I will be very happy to apologise for doubting you, and congratulate you for helping to answer this query.  ;D