George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?

[dobfarm]

You have amassed some very good quality records of a nice little story !! rare pre 1841 census info of the adult life history from 1812 in Selby of George Hood d 1845 aged 60 taking you back to 1785, which is a lot more than most family history researchers have in that time period and you have Sarah Russel with her trade ( Straw Hat maker, tanner, grocer), life history which is rare info in its own right !! also her FH to work on.

I think a lot of FH trees going back from earliest post 1837 GRO death records, age at death estimated birth years in mid to late 1700's baptisms years, are calculated best guess only without substance but normal standard , and with most are limited single line PR info, no parent father named on marriages either pre 1837 and no age at burial entries pre 1750, unless very lucky to have a very wealthy FH records or gravestone MI's & bond allegations of intent to marry with age on.

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch


https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?AcctView=Login&SrchView=Basic&lang=E&sessionid=220690784&DetsView=Content&section=ARTICLES&context=20110609_1

[BushInn1746]

Hi

Durham R.O., confirmed that St Mary's Gateshead 1 Oct 1786 Baptism of Geo: S of John Hood was theirs some time ago.

Checking if Tyne and Wear Archives have a more detailed Parish Register.


No Hood, in any of the Muster Rolls of Vessels with MARY in her name, for Shields and other Northern Ports. Because a John Hood was Master of the MARY of Inverness at Newcastle Quay in the newspaper advert for the 19th November 1782 Auction, arrived via Shields.

Checking if any Scottish record.

There are some Custom files for Newcastle and asked, if anyone knows what they contain
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg6064614#msg6064614

Regards Mark

[dobfarm]

Few links

http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/About/Partners/Archives-and-document-storage.aspx?nccredirect=1

http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/WAMDocuments/A9D82B64-7BBB-4DC4-99BA-D02B9AEC3949_1_0.pdf?nccredirect=1

Very bottom of page in link below but general info good reading aswell.

Note mariners North Easterners abroad extracts -so there must be more wills somewhere

http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/WAMDocuments/A9D82B64-7BBB-4DC4-99BA-D02B9AEC3949_1_0.pdf?nccredirect=1

[BushInn1746]

Thanks

Yes, I had also heard, that not all Mariners Wills appear in the usual PC Will Calendars and Indexes.

Got a list of the Hoods from the first H volume of the Navy Register of Wills at reply 37 here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.37

These Will Registers can be downloaded by volume, in ADM 142
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1851

Some Seamans Wills survive ...
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/wills-royal-navy-royal-marines-personnel-1786-1882/

Regards Mark

[BushInn1746]

Are these Hood Navy Wills on one of the Family History Sites please, as we could go into town and see them ...

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=Hood&discoveryCustomSearch=true&_cr1=ADM+48++&_col=200&_dt=W&_hb=tna

Thanks Mark

EDIT Re: Tyne and Wear Archives ...

Question: ... is there a Gateshead PARISH Baptism REGISTER for the 1st October 1786 HOOD baptism, besides the attached Bishop's Transcript copy and does the PR contain more information?

Answer: The ancient parish for the area of Gateshead was St Marys C of E.  I have checked the microfilm copy we hold for this church and confirm that no additional details are recorded for the baptism of George Hood on 1 October 2016.

[BushInn1746]

Hello dobfarm, Claire and All

I see you found the Hood & Ryle, Newcastle, information I posted on another thread, for another Rootschatter. I noticed the reference to Sinclair too.

Been going through the Hoods in North-east newspapers and Jabez Hood (defendant) got into a Court dispute in 1827 Hammond v. Hood, regarding a loan of 300.l from Edw Hammond who sought to recover it from Jabez Hood and in the pre-amble to this later Court dispute it says ...

The late Mr Robert Hood, the father of the defendant had carried on successfully, for many years, the trade of Victualler, and dying in 1812, when his family were minors, their affairs got into the Court of Chancery. Mr Hammond was appointed by the Court of Chancery to conduct the business in 1816, and continued to conduct for several years.

Mr Hammond had been instructed in the art of rectifying, and had, for a considerable time, conducted a distillery at Brighton.

There are least four files ...

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_st=adv&_ep=Stodhart&_cr1=C&_dss=range&_sd=1812&_ed=1820&_ro=any

Stodhart v Ryle. Depositions.
Plaintiffs: Jane Stodhard the wife of Robert Stodhart.
Defendants: John Ryle, Robert Stodhart, John Linsay Angus and Jabez Hood.
Revived Trinity 1829.


[W1813 S27].
Stodhart v Ryle. Examination.
Plaintiffs: Jane Stodhard the wife of Robert Stodhart.
Defendants: John Ryle, Robert Stodhart, John Linsay Angus and Jabez Hood.
Revived Trinity 1829.


[W1813 S27].
Stodhart v Ryle. Answer.
Plaintiffs: Jane Stodhard the wife of Robert Stodhart.
Defendants: John Ryle, Robert Stodhart, John Linsay Angus and Jabez Hood.
Revived Trinity 1829


[W1813 S27].
Stodhart v Angus. Bill and two answers.
Plaintiffs: Jane Stodhard the wife of Robert Stodhart.
Defendants: John Ryle, Robert Stodhart, John Linsay Angus and Jabez Hood.
Revived Trinity 1829.
SFP

Jomot quoting Claire, from Page 9 of the ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.72
Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 ...
Reply #79 on: Tuesday 23 August 16 10:49 BST (UK)
See also Reply #75 on: Tuesday 23 August 16 08:48 BST (UK)

 ...
1808, Jane Hood of Gateshead, marriage ...

The Rev. Robert Stodhart, of Stepney, Middlesex, to Miss Jane Hood, of Gateshead.
(not checked marriage, her age, or possible parentage)

12 Jan 1783 All Saints, Newcastle, Jane Hood d/o John Hood, Waterman

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ia6/


Also discovered that Jabez Hood was distilling "Newcastle Gin".

Regards Mark

Towards the end of the above quote I made the suggestion that Jane Hood of Gateshead who married Robert Stodhart of Stepney, Middlesex, a Dissenting Minister, may be the same Jane baptised to John Hood the Waterman, at All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne 12th January 1783.

Any suggestion the two Jane Hoods might be the same, was wrong.


The Monthly Magazine, Volume 26
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MU0oAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA382&lpg=PA382&dq=%22Hood+of+Gateshead%22&source=bl&ots=h0-CDsr9uO&sig=FCK6QYx5b1pIw5SyZDQxr-WDYBE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3zuqtmd_PAhWoBsAKHbmODIoQ6AEIKDAB#v=onepage&q=%22Hood%20of%20Gateshead%22&f=false


Upon checking the 11th October 1808 Marriage Intention/Allegation of Robert Stodhart of Stepney, Middlesex and Jane Hood of the Parish of Gateshead, it states that Robert Hood was the natural and lawful father of Jane Hood, a spinster and a minor aged 19 years.

Their Bond refers to "Robert Stodhart of Stepney in the County of Middlesex Dissenting Minister and Robert Hood of Gateshead in the County of Durham Esquire"

Regards Mark

[dobfarm]

Hello dobfarm, Claire and All

I see you found the Hood & Ryle, Newcastle, information I posted on another thread, for another Rootschatter. I noticed the reference to Sinclair too.

Been going through the Hoods in North-east newspapers and Jabez Hood (defendant) got into a Court dispute in 1827 Hammond v. Hood, regarding a loan of 300.l from Edw Hammond who sought to recover it from Jabez Hood and in the pre-amble to this later Court dispute it says ...

The late Mr Robert Hood, the father of the defendant had carried on successfully, for many years, the trade of Victualler, and dying in 1812, when his family were minors, their affairs got into the Court of Chancery. Mr Hammond was appointed by the Court of Chancery to conduct the business in 1816, and continued to conduct for several years.

Mr Hammond had been instructed in the art of rectifying, and had, for a considerable time, conducted a distillery at Brighton.

There are least four files ...

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_st=adv&_ep=Stodhart&_cr1=C&_dss=range&_sd=1812&_ed=1820&_ro=any

Stodhart v Ryle. Depositions.
Plaintiffs: Jane Stodhard the wife of Robert Stodhart.
Defendants: John Ryle, Robert Stodhart, John Linsay Angus and Jabez Hood.
Revived Trinity 1829.


[W1813 S27].
Stodhart v Ryle. Examination.
Plaintiffs: Jane Stodhard the wife of Robert Stodhart.
Defendants: John Ryle, Robert Stodhart, John Linsay Angus and Jabez Hood.
Revived Trinity 1829.


[W1813 S27].
Stodhart v Ryle. Answer.
Plaintiffs: Jane Stodhard the wife of Robert Stodhart.
Defendants: John Ryle, Robert Stodhart, John Linsay Angus and Jabez Hood.
Revived Trinity 1829


[W1813 S27].
Stodhart v Angus. Bill and two answers.
Plaintiffs: Jane Stodhard the wife of Robert Stodhart.
Defendants: John Ryle, Robert Stodhart, John Linsay Angus and Jabez Hood.
Revived Trinity 1829.
SFP

Jomot quoting Claire, from Page 9 of the ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.72
Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 ...
Reply #79 on: Tuesday 23 August 16 10:49 BST (UK)
See also Reply #75 on: Tuesday 23 August 16 08:48 BST (UK)

 ...
1808, Jane Hood of Gateshead, marriage ...

The Rev. Robert Stodhart, of Stepney, Middlesex, to Miss Jane Hood, of Gateshead.
(not checked marriage, her age, or possible parentage)

12 Jan 1783 All Saints, Newcastle, Jane Hood d/o John Hood, Waterman

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ia6/


Also discovered that Jabez Hood was distilling "Newcastle Gin".

Regards Mark

Towards the end of the above quote I made the suggestion that Jane Hood of Gateshead who married Robert Stodhart of Stepney, Middlesex, a Dissenting Minister, may be the same Jane baptised to John Hood the Waterman, at All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne 12th January 1783.

Any suggestion the two Jane Hoods might be the same, was wrong.


The Monthly Magazine, Volume 26
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MU0oAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA382&lpg=PA382&dq=%22Hood+of+Gateshead%22&source=bl&ots=h0-CDsr9uO&sig=FCK6QYx5b1pIw5SyZDQxr-WDYBE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3zuqtmd_PAhWoBsAKHbmODIoQ6AEIKDAB#v=onepage&q=%22Hood%20of%20Gateshead%22&f=false


Upon checking the 11th October 1808 Marriage Intention/Allegation of Robert Stodhart of Stepney, Middlesex and Jane Hood of the Parish of Gateshead, it states that Robert Hood was the natural and lawful father of Jane Hood, a spinster and a minor aged 19 years.

Their Bond refers to "Robert Stodhart of Stepney in the County of Middlesex Dissenting Minister and Robert Hood of Gateshead in the County of Durham Esquire"

Regards Mark

The two Hood's that still bother me are:

Richard Hood mariner b 1774 (born where) married Sutton upon Hull (Sculcoates)

John Hood residing publican Ship southshore Gateshead 1787

[..claire..]

Not sure if you have had this.

There was a Richard Hood baptised in Leven, Yorks., about 11 miles from Sutton upon Hull.

Richard bpt. 9th August 1771 son of Richard and Susanna.

EDIT: Lots of children: Ann, Hannah, Elizabeth, William , Susanna, Sarah and Grace.

Father Richard a weaver married Susanna Drew Catwick 1758.

[BushInn1746]

Not sure if you have had this.

There was a Richard Hood baptised in Leven, Yorks., about 11 miles from Sutton upon Hull.

Richard bpt. 9th August 1771 son of Richard and Susanna.

EDIT: Lots of children: Ann, Hannah, Elizabeth, William , Susanna, Sarah and Grace.

Father Richard a weaver married Susanna Drew Catwick 1758.

Thanks Claire

British History Online says that William Wells devised the Manor of Catwick to a Richard Hood. A Brother was William Hood.

Marriage of one Richard Hood, mentions Scarborough (think one wife of Richard Hood was from Scarborough)?

From British History Online
"(fn. 48) In 1764 Joseph sold the reunited estate to William Wells, and it had passed by 1787 to Well's devisees Richard Hood and his brother William (d. 1852). (fn. 49)"
May be (fn. 48) or (fn. 49)

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/yorks/east/vol7/pp255-261#anchorn49

Richard Hood married Susanna Drew 31 Jan 1759 Catwick.
Richard Hood Wine & Sprit Merchant was baptised Leven 1771 and wife was Caroline Helen Hood (abt 20 yrs younger than Richard), born Castle Howard, appearing in the Census at Stamford Bridge.

Using newspapers, I can link Richard Hood of Stamford Bridge, born Leven [next to Catwick] to Wells Hood of York (born Dunnington), a Wine & Spirit Merchant. Richard Hood was also a Seed Merchant.

Also Wells Hood, almost certainly gets "Wells" from William Wells of Catwick.

Regards Mark

Wells Hood is reputed to be buried in York Minster?

But when I went to check if my George Hood was buried there in 2nd half of September 1845, the Borthwick had all of the York churches, except the Minster burials?


Richard Hood 24 of Stamford Bridge and Elizabeth Williford 20 of Scarborough got a marriage licence on 23 Apr 1794.
Marriage on same day, but says spouses father's name was William Hale (bride's surname still given as Williford) and her residence was York. (info from another Rootschatter)