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John Bryden, Cumberland
« on: Wednesday 24 August 16 00:42 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to confirm the parents of John Bryden born 1801 in Irton. It looks like Thomas Bryden and Esther Stanger from others' research but I can't locate a confirmed link. John married Mary Turner in 1826. Sometimes she seems to be Mary Antrobus or Antrobus Turner and I'm sure what that's about. Two different women? Thank you for your help, everyone.

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Re: John Bryden, Cumberland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 07:05 BST (UK) »
I think that the couple who married 1826 were underage given that the note on the entry has " with consent of Parents"

So neither had reached the age of 21 (this may only be by a few months, or possibly just apply to Mary)


Marriage;
18 Nov 1826, St Mary, Gosforth, Cumberland
John BEARIDEN to Mary TURNER
(FreeREG)

You are right in being careful in not taking other Trees info for granted.

If you get one of the Childrens Birth Certs born post 1837 you will have Marys maiden name.

1841 we have;
John Beairden, 40
Mary Beairden, 35
William Beairden, 15
Hannah Beairden, 12
Bridget Beairden, 10
John Beairden, 8
Mary Beairden, 6
Frances Beairden, 2

By 1851 as you know John is Widowed and alone with Bridget/Frances and a new Son Joseph;
John Bryden, 50, Tailor, born Irton, Cumberland
Bridget Bryden, 20
Frances Bryden, 12
Joseph Bryden, 7

1861/1871 John is with Bridget, now Mrs Teasdale



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Re: John Bryden, Cumberland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 08:01 BST (UK) »
These Turner Marriages occurred around the same time as 1826 Marriage, same Church,

St Mary, Gosforth;
8 Jan 1824, Isaac MAWSON of Irton to Ruth TURNER
19 Oct 1824, Joseph KITCHIN to Frances TURNER (with consent of Parents)
18 Dec 1830, William STEELE to Dinah TURNER
(FreeREG)

Christenings, Gosforth;
SALLY, 21 March 1801, Father WM
DINA Turner, 9 August 1806, Father WM***
MARY Turner, 5 Sept 1802, Father WM*******
ANN, 13 Sept 1804, Father WM, Mother BRIDGET
(Familysearch.Org)
Other possible Children;
BENN, 22 Sept 1800 Whitehaven, Father WM
WILLIAM, 24 April 1810, Ponsonby, WILLIAM/BRIDGET
JOSEPH, 28 December 1812, Ponsonby to WILLIAM/BRIDGET
MARGARET, 6 July 1815, Gosforth to WILLIAM/BRIDGET
(F/S.Org)

William TURNER Married Bridget WILSON, 24 November 1799, Irton, Cumberland
(F/S.Org)

All worth noting for further research




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Re: John Bryden, Cumberland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 08:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you for looking into this for me. I think I will just have to pay for a certificate, as you suggested. ins aying that though, the information that you have provided is very much appreciated.


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Re: John Bryden, Cumberland
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 08:28 BST (UK) »
I was trying to track down Isaac/Ruth Mawson and Joseph/Frances Mawson and William/Dinah Steel on Census with little luck.

1841 Irton;
Isaac Sewell, 45
Dinah Sewell, 30
Wm Sewell, 5
Isaac Snide, 11mths

1851 Dinah SEWALL is born c 1808 Gosforth/1861 Dinah Sewell c 1808 Gosforth etc
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Re: John Bryden, Cumberland
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 08:38 BST (UK) »
Your welcome steph54 and welcome to Rootschat.

Someone else may be able to help that has access to Cumberland records that I dont have.

Yes a Cert is a must;
Birth Reg
Frances Bryden, Sept 1838, Whitehaven, 25 140

Looks to me that Mary died after giving birth to Joseph;
Birth Reg;
JOSEPH Beariden, Dec 1843, Whitehaven, 25 162

Death Reg;
MARY Beariden, Dec 1843, Whitehaven, 25 113

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Re: John Bryden, Cumberland
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 08:42 BST (UK) »
Do you have access to Ancestry?
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Re: John Bryden, Cumberland
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 08:44 BST (UK) »
If so look up in 1841 Census;
William Cunn   65
Bridget Cunn   65

Image is Turner ;D
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Re: John Bryden, Cumberland
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 10:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish1120, I have Dinah as married to William Steele and having Henry. William passed away on 1831 then Dinah remarried to Isaac Sewell in 1834 and having 4 more children. I'm happy to share what I have if you think it's correct. Just let me know. P.S. Yes, I have ancestry.