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Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« on: Wednesday 24 August 16 11:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Gang
(THIS LOOK UP HAS BEEN DONE FOR ME BY A KIND MEMBER OF ROOTSCHAT)
some years ago my late father said to me Auntie Nelly used to be Elgar's housekeeper but I didn't pay much attention then & wish to god I had - I wonder if anyone is able to help me as I found on Ancestry 1911 summary books that Plas Gwyn, Hampton Park Road, Ipsley, HEF is listed as being owned by Sir E. Elgar & it just says that 4 females were in the house at the time(I gather this would be 4 servants as Elgar was in Toronto when the 1911 census was taken).  I would love to know the names of those 4 females residing at Plas Gwyn in 1911 as one of them may have been an ancestor of mine - her surname may have been Lowe as that was the maiden name of my fathers mother who was born Staunton-on-Arrow

I would like to thank you for taking the time to read this request & would be very grateful if anyone is able to help me

All my very best wishes to my fellow members on this valuable site

Phil Heeks
Weston-Super-Mare
Somerset
(born Worcester City a long time ago)
Worcestershire - Heeks, Maiden, Pinchin, Hartland, Tredwell, Holliday, Morton, Collins, Aldington, Saunders
Oxfordshire - Gomm, Hamblet, Austin, Winter,
Herefordshire - Lowe
Radnor - Lowe, Powell
Gloucestershire - Holliday, Pinchin

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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 11:42 BST (UK) »
Sorry, we are not allowed to do look-ups for 1911 census.   :'(  Suggest you visit your library, which may have access to Ancestry and/or FindMyPast.

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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 11:45 BST (UK) »
Have you tried searching the 1911 for the surname Elgar in that vicinity  :-\
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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 11:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Bumble

Thanks for your reply but I was unaware of that restriction on look ups & I'm a library volunteer researcher at Weston & we do look ups for the public every week using the 1911 census. Ive tried Ancestry but its a waste of time & I was hoping for some local information about the parish of Ipsley HEF which may have helped me locate the names of the 4 females in Elgar's house on the 1911 cen summary books

All the very best

Phil
Worcestershire - Heeks, Maiden, Pinchin, Hartland, Tredwell, Holliday, Morton, Collins, Aldington, Saunders
Oxfordshire - Gomm, Hamblet, Austin, Winter,
Herefordshire - Lowe
Radnor - Lowe, Powell
Gloucestershire - Holliday, Pinchin


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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 11:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie

As I said in my request Elgar was in Toronto when the 1911 census was taken & all I can find is the name of the house he owned at the time its name & location also that there were 4 females in the house on census night.

Thanks a lot for trying

All the very best

Phil
Worcestershire - Heeks, Maiden, Pinchin, Hartland, Tredwell, Holliday, Morton, Collins, Aldington, Saunders
Oxfordshire - Gomm, Hamblet, Austin, Winter,
Herefordshire - Lowe
Radnor - Lowe, Powell
Gloucestershire - Holliday, Pinchin

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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 11:54 BST (UK) »
What am I missing!! If you are doing 1911 look ups regularly at your local library, why cant you look at the entry you are wanting the details of?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 12:20 BST (UK) »
You might be better off finding out a bit more about Auntie Nelly first - date / place of birth, confirm surname. Sometimes housekeepers were of mature years and widows. Did Auntie Nelly marry?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 12:26 BST (UK) »
1901 census has a Helena Lowe b abt 1879 at Staunton on Arrow occ Housemaid, but living with her widowed mother and siblings at S on A, so she's not a live in servant.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 12:33 BST (UK) »
If Helena is Aunty Nelly, you can discover roughly where she was in 1911 on Familysearch.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott