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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 12:35 BST (UK) »
If you have found the entry for Plas Gwyn in the Summary books, then you should also have an "occupier" to work with, to search for the names of those people in the house.

I'm also a little confused that you have entered your query under Hertfordshire, but refer to Herefordshire.  :-\  And the only Ipsley I can find on the 1911 census is Upper Ipsley in Warwickshire.  But then I'm easily confused at times  ;D
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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 12:36 BST (UK) »
A search in the 1911 shows that person working for a Sir Edward, but not Elgar.  ;)
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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 12:40 BST (UK) »
If you have found the entry for Plas Gwyn in the Summary books, then you should also have an "occupier" to work with, to search for the names of those people in the house.

I'm also a little confused that you have entered your query under Hertfordshire, but refer to Herefordshire.  :-\  And the only Ipsley I can find on the 1911 census is Upper Ipsley in Warwickshire.  But then I'm easily confused at times  ;D

Not just you - I found the same!   And I couldn't find an entry in the summary books for Hampton Park Rd in any place!

Anyway, as has been said, Helena can be found in 1911 so the OP can look at that complete entry when he is next at the library, and hopefully it will help move his research on.
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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 12:46 BST (UK) »
Sir Edward Elgar only owned Plas Gwyn from 1904 to 1911 then moved to London and Sussex. He came back to Worcestershire in 1923 three years after his wife died. If Nelly was his housekeeper, it could have been in that period.
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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 14:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie

As I said in my request Elgar was in Toronto when the 1911 census was taken & all I can find is the name of the house he owned at the time its name & location also that there were 4 females in the house on census night.

Thanks a lot for trying

All the very best

Phil

I did not suggest that you looked up Edward Elgar, just the surname of Elgar in Herefordshire.   ;)
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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 15:14 BST (UK) »
It is not ipsley, but Tupsley, a district within Hereford city outskirts.

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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 17:11 BST (UK) »
Hi there

This may answer a few questions - Firstly I clicked on Hertfordshire by mistake as the look up request was intended for Herefordshire pages.

I only have access to Ancestry library edition when working as a volunteer researcher so can't do an address search.

Putting Ipsley down was my error as I misread the photo on my mobile phone camera of the summary book page entry for Plas Gwyn

The summary book entry does not show the occupier only the owner of the property & how many people were in the property on census night

Rosie, I'm sorry but I was In a hurry when I saw your reply & didn't read it properly

As for when Elgar owned Plas Gwyn 1 JUL 1904 to 31 DEC 1911 according to the official web site

All the very best

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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 17:19 BST (UK) »
1901 census has a Helena Lowe b abt 1879 at Staunton on Arrow occ Housemaid, but living with her widowed mother and siblings at S on A, so she's not a live in servant.

Is this your Auntie Nelly?
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Re: Im trying to establish a link to Edward Elgar
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 17:40 BST (UK) »
Hang on I use Ancestry Library edition regularly and I can see full census entries, unless something has changed since June when I last used it.
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