Anyone up for a challenge?

[anne_p]

I have a cunundrum and am trying to help a descendant.
I need fresh set of eyes

 1891 census at: 6 Albert Road, Crossmyloof, Cathcart
Robert Struthers    38... My relative but his family/ancestry is not relevant to any further search
Kate Struthers   35
Annie Struthers   7
William McInaney   67
Grace McInaney   66

( Everyone consistently shows POB as Glasgow)

Robert Struthers was my relative. His wife on census is Catherine McInanney /McAnneney who married in 1879
William and Grace on this return were Catherine's parents.
Due to her given name which didn't fit either parent, I had an inkling that the child named Annie was not the biological child of Robert Struthers  and Catherine McAnanney and there was no obvious birth record.

This child married twice and named Robert and Catherine on both certs.

She died in 1958 and her biological parents names were provided.
Her name was Annie Sime born Feb 1884 in Cathcart.

In Feb 1885, ( a year later) an RCE was issued to amend only the details in Col1.
Name changed to Annie Struthers Sime
Contrary to descendants interpretaion, this RCE did not alter her parentage.

Annie's  birth parents parents were Katie McLaughlin and Thomas Sime who married in Glasgow in 1883.
Katie was 27 yrs old (BC 1856) and parents are given as: James Mc Laughlin ( deceased) and Annie MCANNANY

Thomas  Sime ( father) registered Annie's 1884 birth.
Annie was born at the same address provided by Catherine McAnnaney on her 1879 marriage to Robert Struthers. ( Stirling Street, Crossmyloof)

Thomas Sime is no longer relevant to the search but strangely, he remarried in 1887 claiming to be a bachelor?

I am fairly certain that the child's mother, Katie McLaughlin and her "adoptive mother" Catherine Struthers MS McAnnany were cousins, but I can find no trace of Katie before her 1883 marriage  after her daughter's 1884 birth.

I have located the death for Catherine's mother Grace McAnnaney Ms McLachlan
She died in  Cathcart 1894. Her husband William registered the death but,  I can't find his subsequent death

Grace was the daughter of Daniel McLachlan and Grace Hastings
Who were William's parents and was he the brother of Katie's mother?

These families were not literate and there are multiple versions of both McLachlan and McAnnany.

It's also possible that Catherine's mother and Katie's father were were related. McLachlan/McLaughlan/McLochlan


Can anyone find what happened to Katie Sime MS McLaughlin

[MonicaL]

Hi Anne

Just to get some further details from the 1861 census. Is this Kate's family, all showing as born Lanarkshire?

James Mclachlan 41 Dyer Or Watchman b. Lanarkshire
Margaret Mclachlan 36 wife Factory Weaver b. Lanarkshire (not show showing as Ann?)
Daniel Mclachlan 13
Cathrine Mclachlan 10
James Mclachlan 3 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQVJ-JLG
Joseph Mclachlan 1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQKW-7H8

101 So Wellington St Dwelling Houses, Hutchesontown, Glasgow Govan

1851 for this family:

James Mclaughlan 32 watchman dye works b. Gorbals
Mrs. Mclaughlan 28 b. Irvine, Ayrshire
Daniel Mclaughlan 4
Catherine Mclaughlan 6 Months
Sarah Mcinnes 64 wife's aunt Yarn Winder, But A Parish Recepient b. Co Monaghan, Ireland

Address: 43 Govan St, Govan

Monica

[MonicaL]

I have located the death for Catherine's mother Grace McAnnaney Ms McLachlan
She died in  Cathcart 1894. Her husband William registered the death but,  I can't find his subsequent death

Grace was the daughter of Daniel McLachlan and Grace Hastings

From that 1861 census entry above for Kate with her family, eldest son Daniel...wondered if this connected with Grace above given her father's name?

Have you managed to find Kate's father's death details to check his parents' names?

Monica

[MonicaL]

1841 below. Possibly Grace's brother(?) James with parents Daniel and Grace?

Daniel Mclachlan 70 Woolen Dyer b. Ireland
Grace Mclachlan 50 b. Ireland
James Mclachlan 20 Woolen Dyer
Catherine Mclachlan 10

Address: Midenffs Building, Gorbals

Added: Through the McLachlan line, Kate and Catherine do look to have been first cousins as James and Grace do look to have been siblings with a match on their parents' details. There may be further links to establish through the McAnany name in both their lines perhaps?

Below is snip from Kate's father James' DC. He died just after the 1861 census above it seems:

[anne_p]

Good Call Monica.
Katie's father James McLaughlin/ McLachlan is listed on her 1883 marriage as a Dyer ( deceased)

Will look at this later but it looks promising
Thankies
Anne

[MonicaL]

Anne, sorry. Have just added to my last post with James, father, death details. It is a match to Grace.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Death entry for William McAnany I think may be in 1909 in Cathcart, name further scrambled on the index:

1909   William MCIANNAY aged 82    CATHCART (LANARK)   GLASGOW CITY/LANARK - 560/00 0104

If the correct entry, he should show in 1901...but can't see him popping up yet!

Monica

Added: Found probably 1901 entry for him, living alone it seems. At that time, Cathcart would show under Renfrewshire:

William MacAnamy 76 b. Glasgow
Address: Whitehill Terr, Cathcart, Renfrewshire

[anne_p]

Thank you very much Monica.
That  DC solves it.
Annie's direct descendant will be very happy with this but  I think this contact is still a bit uncertain about the actual wording of the RCE attached to Annie's birth record.
Name in Col1 only was altered!

Katie  McLachlan ( variant) and Catherine McAnanney (variants) were indeed 1st cousins.

The DC for William McAnanny ( or variants) remains elusive.
He was the informant to the  1894 death of his wife, Grace McLachlan in Cathcart.
I have looked at several possible, subsequent DCs but none are  for this man.

At a guess, I still think he and Annie McAnanny will be related in some way too.
I have spare credits for SP so, don't go spending any more of your own.
Let me know if you and any other ideas and I will get the certs.

[anne_p]

Thank You again Monica,
The 1909 DC belongs to the correct William McAnanney.

His grandson, also William McAnanney was the informant but sadly he didn't have much info.
He stated that William's father was called John McAnanney and mother was unknown.

I will now try to locate the Dc for Katie's mother, Annie McLachlan Ms McAnanney and see what that says