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Burial of 4 year old in 1868
« on: Wednesday 07 September 16 09:18 BST (UK) »
Where would I begin to find the burial of my Glaswegian born 2nd great uncle?  He was 4 years old when he died in Drumanary, Mount Charles 18th September 1868.

He was baptised in the Catholic faith in Glasgow. His father was UP and mother was Catholic. There was a small obit in the Glasgow Herald noting his death in Donegal and the family were from Watt Street, Glasgow.

Alexander Gilmours father, William, was a captain in the merchant navy so maybe why the family were in Donegal or on holiday perhaps?

Any suggestions where to start would be appreciated. Many thanks. Maria

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Re: Burial of 4 year old in 1868
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 09:24 BST (UK) »
Are you sure he wasn't 'brought home' for burial?
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Re: Burial of 4 year old in 1868
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 09:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Hallmark, there's no Gilmours buried around that time in the Catholic records at Scotlandespeople and with the death registed in Donegal I've no way of knowing otherwise.

The father died a couple of months later and was buried at St.Mungos Cathedral in Glasgow in a family plot there.  Fingers crossed the burial records for other denominations go on line eventually for Scotland.  The headstone in Glasgow is no longer legible.

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Re: Burial of 4 year old in 1868
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 10:17 BST (UK) »
Are you sure it's the one in Donegal?

DRUMANARY. ' Port Patrick.' Druim an airidh [airy], the ridge of the shieling ; or druim an aedhaire [airy], the shepherd's ridge. Cf. CRAIGARIE, and (in the latter sense) Drumaneary in Donegal, and Drumary in Fermanagh and Monaghan.
https://archive.org/stream/studiesintopogra00maxwiala/studiesintopogra00maxwiala_djvu.txt

If it is the one in Donegal then perhaps one of the parents had connections there. It's certainly not a holiday destination in the 1860s!
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Re: Burial of 4 year old in 1868
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 12:47 BST (UK) »
Excuse my poor eyesight.  Looking closer at the cert writing it's actually Drumaneary he died at having suffered from Hydrocephalus for 16 days. An Anne Jervis was present at his death. Unsure who this Anne Jervis maybe.

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Re: Burial of 4 year old in 1868
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 13:09 BST (UK) »
Drumaneary townland- https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/banagh/inver/drumaneary/

Old thread on Jervis family, Drumaneary-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=297707.0

Possibly this is the informant, Anne Jervis-
In Memory of William Jervis of Salthill Who departed this life 12 Oct 1894 aged 85 years
Also of his Wife, Anne Who died 1 Nov 1903 aged 80 years
http://donegalgenealogy.com/invercofiGY.htm
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Re: Burial of 4 year old in 1868
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 13:46 BST (UK) »
Drumaneary townland- https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/banagh/inver/drumaneary/

Old thread on Jervis family, Drumaneary-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=297707.0

Possibly this is the informant, Anne Jervis-
In Memory of William Jervis of Salthill Who departed this life 12 Oct 1894 aged 85 years
Also of his Wife, Anne Who died 1 Nov 1903 aged 80 years
http://donegalgenealogy.com/invercofiGY.htm
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IF it is her...

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Mountcharles/Salthill_Demense/1170808/
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Re: Burial of 4 year old in 1868
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 13:58 BST (UK) »
Interesting links there. The map is making me wonder if a merchant ship could have docked there.  I see there are quite a few Gilmours around Mount Charles and I've also done a name search on his mother's maiden name Bonar.  There were quite a few Bonars on his mother side I never traced much after the 1841 census in her birth place of Edinburgh.

Aren't the GROs being released on line shortly? They might help for possible family connections in Donegal. I'd like to think that little Alexander made it back to Glasgow for burial along with his grandfather and great grandfather at the Cathedral in Glasgow. There's at least 4 adults and 3 children already recorded in the plot.

Scotlandespeople are meant to be releasing new material. I don't know whether it might be post 1855 burial details for non Catholics, but I did hear a rumour it might be the Scottish Poor Law records.  Will just have to wait and see. Thank you so very much for your help.

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Re: Burial of 4 year old in 1868
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 15:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the census return. I'd imagine it is Anne.  Wish I could get the time to get down to the Mitchell Library in Glasgow to look closer at the burials in Glasgow. I know of at least two other children who may well be buried in the plot, but deaths are post 1855 so all I have is the cemetery name and not lair number.  One day I'll crack it.