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Re: Can anyone please read the address and was she there in the 1911 census?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 11 September 16 13:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Gaffy,
Thanks for the information it is very helpfull.

It would be very interesting to see how long Henry's business kept running.
I believe he took the business over from his father George Audley died when his father died in 1864.
I believe his father married in 1826 in  Waterford before moving to Clonmel county Tipperary and moving back to Waterford in about 1855.

Sinann,
I will be sending you a private massage with an attached file
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Re: Can anyone please read the address and was she there in the 1911 census?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 11 September 16 21:32 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Following on from Gaffy's information
The Waterford Mail Monday Evening 4th July 1864 has
At Thomas-street, the wife of Mr. Henry Audley, of a daughter.

ad the Waterford Mirror and Tranmore Visiter 22nd JUne 1864 also has
At Thomas-street, the wife of Mr. Henry Audley, of a daughter.

I have looked at the birth registrations for 1864 and cannot find an appropriate registration
Can anyone suggest a way I can find the daughters name?

Thanks in anticipation of your help
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Re: Can anyone please read the address and was she there in the 1911 census?
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 11 September 16 23:19 BST (UK) »
Civil Registration had only just started, take up was a bit slow at first so it's possible she wasn't registered.

This woman could be a red herring but worth taking a note of
A Kathleen Audley from Waterford with father Henry married in 1901, but I think her father is listed as a tradesman. Her age doesn't quite work either.
Marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/d136ec7361461
1901 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Fitzwilliam/Peter_Place/1307306/
1911 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Rathgar_Avenue/63741/

1911 Census says County Waterford so that could also be a problem.


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Re: Can anyone please read the address and was she there in the 1911 census?
« Reply #30 on: Monday 12 September 16 00:50 BST (UK) »
I haven't read what you sent yet so if I'm posting stuff you already have sorry.
Just found this.
George Audley's grave.
http://historicgraves.com/abbeylands/wa-abld-0183/grave

Interesting marriage of a Waterford Lindsay with Henry Audley as a wittness
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e553040522224

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Re: Can anyone please read the address and was she there in the 1911 census?
« Reply #31 on: Monday 12 September 16 17:56 BST (UK) »
do you have this               Francis Peter   Audley   Date of Death:   24-Mar-1875   
Age:   1   Parish / District:   Waterford
Address:   Mile Post   County:   Co. Waterford
Status:   Bachelor   Denomination:   Civil Record
Occupation:   Child Of Druggist   Sex:   Male
Graveyard   Informant
Graveyard:      Relationship:   
Parish:      Name:   
County:      Address:   Mile Post
Notes:
Registrar: Delandre V.R..
Register: WAT U1 DTH BK18.
Union: Waterford.
Cause of death: Chronic hydrocephalus 1 year certified.
Informant: Taylor Mgt. Her Mark Present At Death.
 - annclare
and this one - John Lindsay   Audley   Date of Death:   09-Aug-1866   
Age:   0   Parish / District:   Waterford
Address:   42 Lady Lane   County:   Co. Waterford
Status:   Bachelor   Denomination:   Civil Record
Occupation:   Child   Sex:   Male
Graveyard   Informant
Graveyard:      Relationship:   
Parish:      Name:   
County:      Address:   42 Lady Lane
Notes:
AGE:17 DAYS .
Registrar: Ryan James J..
Register: WAT 1U DTH BK4.
Union: Waterford.
Cause of death: Jutus susception 4 days certified .
Informant: Audley Henry Present At Death.
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Re: Can anyone please read the address and was she there in the 1911 census?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 12 September 16 19:02 BST (UK) »
Marriage of James Audley (if you  don't have it)
13-Sep-1893       
Parish / District:   Trinity Without      County:   Co. Waterford
Husband      Wife
Name:   James   Audley      Catherine   Cummins
Address:   Lower Newtown      Barrack Street
Denomination:   Roman Catholic      Roman Catholic
Occupation:         
Age:         
Status:         
Husband's Father      Wife's Father
Name:   Henry         Patrick   :         
Husband's Mother      Wife's Mother
Name:   Elizabeth   Lindsey      Mary   O'Brien
      
Witness 1      Witness 2
Name:   Martin   Cummins      Brigid   Hennessey
Address:         
Notes:
Officiator: POWER THOMAS. Place: BALLYBRICKEN. Comment: *BROAD
STREET.+BARRACK STREET.#THE GLEN.
Also Slater's Directory of 1894 showing Henry Audley Agent Suir Navigation Office Bridge St Waterford
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Re: Can anyone please read the address and was she there in the 1911 census?
« Reply #33 on: Monday 12 September 16 19:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Sinanne & annclare

Sinann,
Please accept my apologies for not replying earlier. We have been looking after one of the Grandsons today so the only time I have left for family  history is in the evening. This goes for the whole of this week. Looking after the grandchildren is great fun but they tire us out.

The marriage record of Kathlene Audley is very interesting, not only is her father Henry Audley but one of the witnesses is a James Audley, possibly her brother. This James Audley could be the James Audley who married Catherine Cummins in 1893 and whose father is also Henry Audley. I thought I would try and compare the signatures on the two marriage certificates for James Audley but failed as he appears to have signed with an x on his own marriage certificate.

I agree that her age in the 1901 census is not consistant with the daughter reported in the newspapers to have been born in 1864.  However as Elizabeth recorded in the 1911 census that she had had 10 children if we include James, Kathleen and a daughter born in 1864 we have eight of her 10 children.

Re your link to the historic graves website somebody else has given me the same link, but thank for the link.

With regard to the link to the marriage at which Henry Audley was a witness the Groom was called James Lindsay I assume he was the brother of Henry Audley's wife Elizabeth Lindsay.

annclare
Many thanks for your response
With regard to the death of Francis Peter Audley when I looked at the death registration indexes I found two death registrations for a Francis Peter Audley one in Q1 1875 and the other in Q2 1875
You have found the one in Q1 1875. I do not know the source of your information but could you possible look at the source again and see if you can find one in Q2 1875.
Links to the 2 registrations are as follows:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/fa670918137464
and
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/360a7918138502

The confirmation of the death details for John Lindsay Audley in 1866 is great as I already have a birth of a John Lindsay Audley in 1867, which proves my suspicion that they had two children with the same name ( the second born after the death of the first)

I was aware of the marriage of James Audley to Catherine Cummins, but thanks for confirming the information.

The information from Slaters Directory is fantastic as it shows that Henry was alive in 1894 so it ties in with death in 1897.  What was concerning me was that sone family information written in a letter dated 1930 suggested that Heney Audley died earlier than 1897. Slaters directory proves that information incorrect.

Can you possibly tell me the source of the information particularily the 1894 Slaters Directory; can you confirm it says Suir Navigation Office

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Re: Can anyone please read the address and was she there in the 1911 census?
« Reply #34 on: Monday 12 September 16 22:38 BST (UK) »
Re Francis Peter's death this is a transcription from www.rootsireland.ie and the database is only showing one entry. Wonder if the second one is a duplicate with the wrong quarter.

Slater's directory 1894 is from findmypast.ie and it states clearly Suir Navigation Office.
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Re: Can anyone please read the address and was she there in the 1911 census?
« Reply #35 on: Monday 12 September 16 23:17 BST (UK) »
On that Genes Reunited link in Reply #20, on page 2 of the results there is one titled Election of Officers.
Dated 11 May 1897 which has a Henry Audley. Sounds like a golf club.