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Victor/van Wyk surname in South Africa
« on: Tuesday 13 September 16 17:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am looking for more information on the following:

Two van Wyk sisters married two Victor brothers,

1. Wilhelmina Johanna Susanna VICTOR (VAN WYK)
    Born 1902.10.19

2. Isabella Elizabeth VICTOR (VAN WYK)
    Born:  190(9?).10.25
    Died: 1928.07.14
    Buried:  Windsorton, South Africa

I am looking for information on the Victor brothers (names, dates, etc.).
Also looking for relative information on the two van Wyk sisters (parents, siblings, etc)

Thanks in advance.
Gous, Botes, Enslin, van Wyk, Erasmus, Liebenberg, Petersen, van Zyl, Nel, Vermaak, Schoeman

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Re: Victor/van Wyk surname in South Africa
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 September 16 07:04 BST (UK) »
A bit of a long shot, but I see that there is a Johannes Petrus Victor 1875-1947 and Carolina L nee Winter 1880-1967 buried at Windsorton as well. I wonder whether they could be the parents of one or both of your Victor's. Possibly the estate could give more details. Unfortunately it would have to be ordered directly from the archives using these details.

DEPOT     KAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MOK                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 1/1/1125                                                             
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 5886                                                                 
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          VICTOR, JOHANNES PETRUS. ESTATE PAPERS.                               
STARTING  19470000                                                             
ENDING    : 19470000
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Re: Victor/van Wyk surname in South Africa
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 September 16 07:32 BST (UK) »
I was thinking the same thing when I saw their graves so I started looking deeper.

I found the husbands name of the Wilhelmina sister, he was Jan Hendrik.  I also got the death notice of Johannes Petrus, it states on death notice he had two sons, first born Jan Hendrik and Jan Thomas.  The problem I am finding is that I cant seem to link the van Wyk sister who died young with Jan Thomas (the dates with his first born and wife does clash with the death of sister).

I am starting to think maybe she wasn't a van Wyk sister but the family member that assist me was pretty sure (and had correct information on the young age of passing without the gravestone) that the two sisters married two brothers.

Thanks.
Gous, Botes, Enslin, van Wyk, Erasmus, Liebenberg, Petersen, van Zyl, Nel, Vermaak, Schoeman

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Re: Victor/van Wyk surname in South Africa
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 September 16 08:06 BST (UK) »
Have you done a manual search in the Cape Death Notices for 1928 looking for Isabella?
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Re: Victor/van Wyk surname in South Africa
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 September 16 08:21 BST (UK) »
Every place I could think of I tried.

The only place I could find any information about her was 1. family member and 2. eggsa

I tried:
Gendata, Familysearch, NAAIRS, Ancestry, eggsa, geni, google.

I keep going back thinking maybe I am missing something or looked past it.

The only extra information I have that I didn't state in my first message (before getting Jan Hendrik information).  Family member said there was 6 van Wyk sister, I have 3.
The two I already mentioned and then my dads grandmother Hester Jacoba Magdalena Gous (born Van Wyk). I am trying to find the van Wyk side but no luck.
 
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Re: Victor/van Wyk surname in South Africa
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 September 16 08:28 BST (UK) »
The only Jan Thomas I can find married a Magdalena Dorothea Kies. Wonder if it could have been a second marriage considering Isabella died so young.
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Re: Victor/van Wyk surname in South Africa
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 September 16 08:40 BST (UK) »
The only problem is that his first child with Magdalena Dorothea Kies was born 6 Sep 1926 and Isabella only passed away 1928.

Maybe Johannes Petrus can be a brother and that the van Wyk/Victor history is from that side that is the only thing I can think of.
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Re: Victor/van Wyk surname in South Africa
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 September 16 09:28 BST (UK) »
If you PM me your email address I will send you Isabella's death notice.
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