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Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
« on: Thursday 15 September 16 10:39 BST (UK) »
I'd be very grateful for any pointers on records of transportation to and return from Australia.  An ancestor went to New South Wales in 1801, we think, became pregnant and had a daughter on Mauritius (or Isle de France as it was called) in about 1809 on her way back home. We wonder if this was a case of transportation, although she would have been very young when she went to NSW (about 10).

They both returned to Gloucestershire, and the daughter's birthplace was listed as Isle of France on a census form.  The mother's name was Mary Bowden b about 1791 in Gloucestershire, and the daughter was Ann Roderick Bowden.  I can find nothing in the criminal records on Anc???ry.co.uk   

If anyone else has done similar research and knows of any sources of information it would be great.
Haxton, Milne, Stobie, Neill, McGregor, Hogg - Scotland
Cashmore, Cooper, Bland, Hutchin, Baldwin, Brain - Birmingham, England
Brown, Tucker, Mugford, Crocker - Devon
Campin, Fitch - Essex
Hayling, Bowden - Gloucestershire

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Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 September 16 14:51 BST (UK) »
hi
dont know if your aware that any person transported had on release to pay for there own passage home if they could afford it hence why so many made a new life where they were imprisoned .
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Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 September 16 17:33 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Trevor - I didn't know that.     
Maryb
Haxton, Milne, Stobie, Neill, McGregor, Hogg - Scotland
Cashmore, Cooper, Bland, Hutchin, Baldwin, Brain - Birmingham, England
Brown, Tucker, Mugford, Crocker - Devon
Campin, Fitch - Essex
Hayling, Bowden - Gloucestershire

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Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 September 16 18:15 BST (UK) »
I think there are a couple of websites which list and give information on transportation.Try googling transportation to Australia .A few years ago I found the name of a young girl sent to Australia for stealing cloth from her mistress.The boat she went on plus others on the crowds boat were listed.
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Mann Ringrose Prior( West London)Prior (Halstead Colchester and Sudbury)Ringrose (Northants) Clark(sussex  Bath)Light(Shropshire West London)Barber(Northants)Gaudern (Northants)Piper(Suffolk)Carter (Essex)Nightingale,Stiles,Dunk,Hedgecock(Kent)Mann(south Devon )Le Cronier,Le Quesne,Poingdestre,Esnouf,Le Guyt,Anley.Le Carteret(Jersey)Clark(Bath,Batcombe,and Nyland )
er(essex)Nightingale(kent Sussex)Sutton (sussex)

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Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 September 16 19:09 BST (UK) »
Possibly her
Mary Bowden
Convicted at:   Devon Quarter Sessions
Sentence term:   7 years
Ship:   Earl Cornwallis
Departure date:   August, 1800
Arrival date:   12th June, 1801
Place of arrival   New South Wales
Passenger manifest   Travelled with 292 other convicts

http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/bowden/mary/82705
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Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 September 16 17:41 BST (UK) »
Ringrose and Lisa - many thanks for the information.  I'll get cracking on the search for Devon criminal records, and look at the web info on the Earl Cornwallis.
Haxton, Milne, Stobie, Neill, McGregor, Hogg - Scotland
Cashmore, Cooper, Bland, Hutchin, Baldwin, Brain - Birmingham, England
Brown, Tucker, Mugford, Crocker - Devon
Campin, Fitch - Essex
Hayling, Bowden - Gloucestershire

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Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 September 16 12:32 BST (UK) »
No Luck I'm afraid.  The Mary Bowden transported to NSW on the Earl Cornwallis arriving 1801 was still in NSW in 1825, so she could not have returned to England with a child and then married Thomas Willey in Gloucestershire in 1819.  Never mind, I'll keep searching for other possibilities.  Thanks to all who replied on this one.

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Haxton, Milne, Stobie, Neill, McGregor, Hogg - Scotland
Cashmore, Cooper, Bland, Hutchin, Baldwin, Brain - Birmingham, England
Brown, Tucker, Mugford, Crocker - Devon
Campin, Fitch - Essex
Hayling, Bowden - Gloucestershire

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Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 September 16 20:28 BST (UK) »
As a birth in 1809/1810 puts her in Mauritius around the time that the British took over, I wonder if there's a military or naval connection? She could have been in Australia as the family of a sailor or soldier.

There are some online records from the French period in their "overseas archives":
http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/anom/en/Recherches/IREL.html
These are not name-indexed, you would have to pick "Digitised Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths", and then go through the surviving records for each town to see if Ann or any Bowdens (or Rodericks?) are listed.
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Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 15:18 BST (UK) »
JoRose,

Thanks, I'll have a look.

Mary
Haxton, Milne, Stobie, Neill, McGregor, Hogg - Scotland
Cashmore, Cooper, Bland, Hutchin, Baldwin, Brain - Birmingham, England
Brown, Tucker, Mugford, Crocker - Devon
Campin, Fitch - Essex
Hayling, Bowden - Gloucestershire