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Re: Joseph DOUGLAS / LIMAVADY
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 November 16 19:55 GMT (UK) »
As previously posted, Henry Douglas senior married Mary Jane Warke on 19 July 1874 in Limavady RC Church.  On the same day, a Henry Douglas who was an adult presbyterian, was baptised into the RC Church at Limavady, the record says that he was the son of William Douglas and Rachel Henry of Ballycrum (left page, 2nd entry down):

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633034#page/111/mode/1up
 

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Re: Joseph DOUGLAS / LIMAVADY
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 23 November 16 20:17 GMT (UK) »
A bit of speculation, but just to note this death of a labourer's widow Rachel Douglas with a reported age of 86 at Terrydoo in 1893 (informant Nancy Douglas: note below), just a possibility for the wife of William Douglas of Ballycrum mentioned above:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/06014/4711955.pdf

Also just wondering if these folk below are connected (note how we have eventually come round to the location 'Terrydoo Walker' and note the name Nancy Douglas as mentioned above):

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Lislane/Terrydoo_Walker/1526526/

The Head of Family in the above census return, Wilson Douglas, married Nancy Forrest on 12 January 1872, significantly, his address at that time was given as Ballycrum and his father given as William Douglas, so I'm thinking that Wilson was possibly a brother of Henry Douglas senior who married Mary Jane Warke.

So to recap the line of thought so far, the possibility is that William Douglas of Ballycrum and Rachel Henry had a son Henry Douglas (born c. early 1850s?) who in 1874 converted to RC and married Mary Jane Warke, who in turn had a son Henry James Douglas in 1882 who married Annie Millar in 1909, who in turn had a son Joseph Douglas in 1910 who was the one killed in an accident in Keady Quarry in 1945. 


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Re: Joseph DOUGLAS / LIMAVADY
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 November 16 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Read these topics, they are directly related to what has been posted above, no point in repeating them here, lots of additional stuff:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=359930.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=660124.0


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Re: Joseph DOUGLAS / LIMAVADY
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 24 November 16 07:30 GMT (UK) »
On top of what you've said, Joseph Douglas and his father Henry Douglas (Henry James / Henry junior) must have had a routinely hazardous job, for there is also this account from Friday 21 August 1936 in the Derry Journal: A fall of rock at a quarry on the face of Keady mountain, near Limavady, on Wednesday, injured two men, Henry Douglas (60), of Terrydoo and his son, Joseph Douglas (28), who were engaged at quarrying operations. Without warning, a great mass of overhanging rock gave way and crashed down. Henry Douglas's injuries were slight, but his son was struck by a boulder and rendered unconscious.  He was taken to the Roe Valley Hospital by ambulance suffering from concussion, and has not yet regained consciousness.  Hopes are entertained for his recovery.



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Re: Joseph DOUGLAS / LIMAVADY
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 24 November 16 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Trying not to repeat what has already been covered in the other topics posted at reply #11...  so just to round off the children of Henry Douglas senior and Mary Jane Warke shown in the 1911 census return - repeated below for convenience (the birth for their son Henry junior / Henry James born in 1882 was previously posted at reply #7):

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Keady/Drumramer/596728/

Joseph was baptised in Limavady RC Church on 30 October 1874, the record says he was born on 15 October, the address was Stradreath (Stradreagh?) (right page, 3rd entry down from top):
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633034#page/112/mode/1up

Alexander was born on 16 March 1878 at Ballycrum:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02969/2087758.pdf

Thomas was born on 24 December 1884 at Ballycrum:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02662/1981288.pdf

Mary Anne was born on 18 November 1887 at Ballycrum:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02542/1941015.pdf
 

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Re: Joseph DOUGLAS / LIMAVADY
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 24 November 16 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Turning to the background of Mary Jane Warke who married Henry Douglas senior in 1874 (the marriage record said that her father was Alexander Warke, a farmer), I noticed this Administration case in the PRONI Will Calendars:

Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Mary Anne Warke late of Tirmaquin County Londonderry Widow who died 2 July 1893 at same place were granted at Londonderry to Mary Jane Douglas of Ballycrum in said County Widow the Daughter.

The death record for Mary Anne Warke cites the informant as a James D. Mullan, a cousin, present at death at Tirmaquin:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/05997/4706154.pdf

I also noticed a marriage (GRONI online has it) on 20 November 1849 at Christ Church (CoI) Drumachose of an Alexander Warke of Limavady to Mary Anne Mullan of Tirmaquin, both parties' fathers John Warke and Thomas Mullan were given as farmers.

So, a possibility perhaps that the parents of Mary Jane Warke were Alexander Warke and Mary Anne Mullan.


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Re: Joseph DOUGLAS / LIMAVADY
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 24 November 16 10:46 GMT (UK) »
There was a notice in the Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer of 1955 for the death of a 40 year old Alexander (Alec) Douglas who died on 19 March 1955 at Leeds General Infirmary, it says that he had 10 year's service in the Yorkshire Post machine room and that he was the son of Mr. and Mrs. Harry Douglas of Terrydoo, Limavady, the cortege left 11 Springfield Place in Leeds and cremation was at Lawnswood.  Presumably this was Joseph Douglas' brother, another son of Henry Douglas and Annie Millar mentioned at reply # 3, his 1914 birth record shown here:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01398/1574965.pdf


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Re: Joseph DOUGLAS / LIMAVADY
« Reply #16 on: Monday 28 November 16 19:56 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to digest the amount of information posted about the Douglas family and after my first quick scan of it all a lot makes sense. i was told the brother who moved to live in England was possibly called James but this now confirms it was Alexander.  Joseph my mums first husband did work in Keady Quarry and from what I can make out his father Henry aka Harry worked alongside his son.  Some years after Joseph was killed in the accident at Keady in 1945 his father also met the same fate and the story from locals was that the big truck removing the rubble and rocks was reversing out and accidentally ran over him where he died instantly from his injuries. I was also told of a sister Cissy but i have never been able to find out what Cissy would have been short for. She must have been the youngest and from what I recall she was still living when I started my quest to find out more about Joseph for my eldest sister, who will be delighted with all this information. Its unbelievable to see Joseph was also injured aged 28 and then for another accident to have killed him in 1945.  My sister was born in 1942 in Limavady and then they must have moved here to Scotland for a few years they had only arrived back at Terrydoo 3 weeks before Joseph was killed in the quarry. My mum went back to live at her parents in drumalief after the death along with my sister who was 3yrs old at the time. Thank you so much for all your help with this. I am now going to go back through it all and read it again.

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Re: Joseph DOUGLAS / LIMAVADY
« Reply #17 on: Monday 28 November 16 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Cissy is usually a nickname for 'sister'
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!