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Re: Sarah Ellen WALL 1868-1902 Swindon and Highworth Workhouse
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 17 September 16 10:04 BST (UK) »
Getting my Sarahs mixed up, Sarah in this case is Fields...anyway, on with the search
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Re: Sarah Ellen WALL 1868-1902 Swindon and Highworth Workhouse
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 17 September 16 10:12 BST (UK) »
Yes, given the district is Stratton it is reasonable to assume this is Lilian Maude.
I would hope the Guardians' notes of the time would reflect this (that the fields were fostering her)
My grandmother went to 2 foster families, as the first one didn't work out, and all this is noted down, so there's a fair chance there will be some info on her.
The trick is now to try and trace her - I found Alice, her sister at 24 but nothing after (Alice wasn't fostered, but led the life of a servant girl) but how to find them when they reach the age of maturity is the challenge - I have a lead with Alice as I have the name of the rector who owned the house and the "lady of independent means and the young school mistress who also lived there - very Pride and Prejudice isn't it?........Church records may have info on the house itself.

I will try Lilian in the 1911 census as well and also try and trace the 'foster" parents relatives - I have done this with my grandmother so its possible I can do this with Lilian also.
Thanks for this.
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Re: Sarah Ellen WALL 1868-1902 Swindon and Highworth Workhouse
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 17 September 16 10:17 BST (UK) »
Who is Olive Wall 3 years old born Chaddington??? Tinam

Most obvious guess is Lilian's child

Think this is the birth reg

Olive Grace Wall
Q1 1908     Cricklade Vol 5a, p52

Not getting far with either of them after 1911

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Re: Sarah Ellen WALL 1868-1902 Swindon and Highworth Workhouse
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 17 September 16 10:22 BST (UK) »
Well done Mabel!! And she was still with the Fields(Field) who are childless in 1911, and yes you were right about their age differences. Lily listed as a boarder who would have been with them for over 10 years.  Who is Olive Wall 3 years old born Chaddington??? Tinam

I would say a child of hers...she is a daily servant, and a boarder, the term used for my grandmother with her foster parents.
She had no real roots and family so having an illegitimate child would be a logical step.
Thrilled to have found this - take a bow ladies!
Will follow up Olive's roots also.....
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Re: Sarah Ellen WALL 1868-1902 Swindon and Highworth Workhouse
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 17 September 16 10:44 BST (UK) »
Now this is interestnig. Have found Walter's WWI service records in the Royal Engineers - says he's 41 when he enlists in 1915  (he looks to have actually been b c1878-80 if yuo look at birth and census records)

as well as wife Sarah Ann Bullock, he also claims a child - Olive Grace Field b Cricklade 1908

Looks like they have "adopted" her (given no formal procedures in those days)

There a further papers regarding application for a pension giving an address in Hempthorne Court, Rosser Street, Neath



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Re: Sarah Ellen WALL 1868-1902 Swindon and Highworth Workhouse
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 17 September 16 11:01 BST (UK) »
Confirming her dob from Mabel's post

from National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
Swindon Gorse Hill Inft.
Olive Grace Wall dob 8/1/08
admission number 79
admission date 19/1/14
Parent or guardian Walter Field, 87 Bright Street
last school College St Infts.
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Re: Sarah Ellen WALL 1868-1902 Swindon and Highworth Workhouse
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 17 September 16 12:03 BST (UK) »
Confirming her dob from Mabel's post

from National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
Swindon Gorse Hill Inft.
Olive Grace Wall dob 8/1/08
admission number 79
admission date 19/1/14
Parent or guardian Walter Field, 87 Bright Street
last school College St Infts.

Ladyhawk you rock!!!! I am trying to trace ancestors of the 5 wall children, and now I have four out of the five...FYI, my daughter wanted Olive as a potential baby name when she starts a family and now we have someone in the family by the same name!
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Re: Sarah Ellen WALL 1868-1902 Swindon and Highworth Workhouse
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 17 September 16 12:06 BST (UK) »
Now this is interestnig. Have found Walter's WWI service records in the Royal Engineers - says he's 41 when he enlists in 1915  (he looks to have actually been b c1878-80 if yuo look at birth and census records)

as well as wife Sarah Ann Bullock, he also claims a child - Olive Grace Field b Cricklade 1908

Looks like they have "adopted" her (given no formal procedures in those days)

There a further papers regarding application for a pension giving an address in Hempthorne Court, Rosser Street, Neath

Lilian Maude had no known father, so its a bit of history repeating itself here I feel.
Yes, the children came under the Children's Act of 1899- 1900 and fostering was in its infancy then, and my own grandmother benefitted from a good home with a good family.
Question is - is Walter her "dad" - his wife was older, so its entirely possible - not very palatable thought, but a possibility nonetheless.
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Re: Sarah Ellen WALL 1868-1902 Swindon and Highworth Workhouse
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 17 September 16 12:17 BST (UK) »
I have started an entry on Ancestry for Olive Wall - I've attached the census entry for her.
A hint suggested her birth, but it said CRICKLADE WILTSHIRE, and yet she is down on the cenus as born in CHADDINGTON - I am not sure if this one and the same place?
Will check on this.
Also, I need to try and follow her up as a Field also....
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