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Re: Re: Any tips for researching in Gorey
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 07 February 10 00:40 GMT (UK) »
Loch Garman, Gerard,
Thank you for your response.
I would certainly appreciate any feedback you have on my family names in Gorey.  Anniebelle.
McDowell, Co Cavan, Co Monaghan-NSW
Davidson, Co Down-NSW
Hayes, Co Tipperary-Vic, NSW
Hayes, Co Wexford-NSW
Kennedy, Co Tipperary-Vic, NSW
McAlary, McIlhinney, Keilt, McNichol, Shannon Co Derry-Vic, NSW
Rochester, Sussex-NSW
Matthews, Kent-NSW
Lyons/Hynes Co Kildare-NSW
Grimes, Lancashire-NSW
Hall, Essex/London-NSW
Seath, Kent-NSW
Long, Woolwich-NSW
Meyer, Heist, Germany-Vic
Goldsmith, Gordon, Wall, Co Wexford-Vic,NSW
Fraser, Hassard, Fermanagh, St Helens, Lancashire-Vic

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Re: Re: Any tips for researching in Gorey
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 07 February 10 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gerrard

Thanks for the helpful response.   In the 1901 census, my grandfather, Thomas Bell (then aged 12) was living in Esmonde Street, Gorey.  He was a visitor at his uncle, John Bell's house on the day of the census.

My great great grandmother, Mary Bell, was also living in Esmonde Street with her sons, Edward and Joshua (Thomas Bell's father).

I obtained this info via the Wexford Genealogy Centre a couple of years back.  I've found the family in the 1911 census subsequently and have most of the BMD certificates.

I'd be interested to know if there are any more Bells in Gorey in the 1901 census and for any old pictures of Gorey back then, especilly Esmonde Street.  I've tried to source the books you mentioned, but as you say they're hard to get hold of.

Anything you could provide would be appreciated.  I won't be online again now until next weekend as I'm away from home all week.

Thanks again for the offer - much appreciated.

Andy

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Re: Re: Any tips for researching in Gorey
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 07 February 10 22:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Anniebell

From photo of the pews in the Church of Ireland; Christ Church, Gorey.
As Elizabeth 5 says Wm Goldsmith, Ballycale is pew no 73. Also Geo. Gordon, Killowen, is pew no 76. The names you suggested such as Goldsmith, Gordon sounded like church of ireland/protestant family names - so you might be lucky in getting some information on them.

Gorey is made up of the medieval parish of Kilmakilloge, parts of Kilcavan townland, and parts of the townlands of kiltennel and Kilnahue.
Kilmakilloge = Cill Moshiolog which means the "church of St. Moshiolog".
Ballykale = Baile Caol which means the "narrow farmstead". Caol is the gaelic for slender or narrow.
Kilcavan = Cill Chaomhain or the "church of St. Caomhan".

A George Goldsmith, Farmer, Residence: Bolacreen
A Mathias Goldsmith, Linen Weaver, Residence: Mangan
A Rev. James Gorden, Curate of Clough, Residence: Marlfield, Gorey all appear in the Claims List for 1798. (this list was for damage to property after the rebellion of 1798 - COI were the claimants).

A William Goldsmith, James Gordan, both of Ballykale survived the famine.

Gordens - Mary Anne Gorden appear in the census for 1911 in Ballingarry. You can look up the census for 1911 on the national archives website. www.nationalarchives.ie
 

Hi Andyb1963

Sinnotts (Eliza Sinnott) appear  for Census 1911 in Clonattin Road or Pot Lane.

Byrne-Bell appear census 1911 in Esmonde Street. John Byrne- head, Mary Bell mother in law.
The other names you mention don't jump out for the other addresses.

You can type in their name on the 1911 census website at the nationalarchives.ie

In 1901 census there is Bell Mary Bell, Edward Bell, Joshua Bell, Maryy Quigley, Eliz Quigley. Also There is a Richard Sinnott head of family and son for esmonde street too in 1901.

Hi Tvandermyde

My Sunderlands lived and farmed at Ballyscartin just outide Gorey. Just after the famine there is an Abraham Sheehan and also a James Sheehan listed for living at Ballyscartin at this time. this would have been around 1853.

Thanks Gerard





Fleming, Walsh, Masterson, Tobin of Co. Kilkenny.
Doyle, Donovan, Kennedy, Sunderland, Behan, Pender, Kinsella of Co.Wexford

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Re: Re: Any tips for researching in Gorey
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 07 February 10 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Gerard,
Abraham Sheehan died in 1855 or 1856 .  He was married to Margaret Sunderland and I show that they had 6 children: Lawrence b.1830 went to states in 1846, Mary anne died prior to 1856, Bessie, died prior to 1856, John went to Australia, Bridget, and Patrick b.1840 d.1910 buried at Courttown?
All we have for information is Shehans or Sheehans of Ballyscartin (Ballyscarton), Gorey, Co. Wexford, Ireland. 
did you find Abraham listed on a census?  We are planning to travel to Ireland in mid April to see if we can find out more...any help or suggestions appreciated.
Thanks,
Tina


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Re: Re: Any tips for researching in Gorey
« Reply #22 on: Monday 08 February 10 05:03 GMT (UK) »
Gerard,  Thank you for the additional information.  I have just received a marriage certificate which shows one of the children i.e. George Gordon, farmer, son of David Gordon, farmer, son gives residence as  Ballingarry in 1853.  His wife, Mary Ann Tyndall, daughter of Matthew Tyndall, farmer, also resident of Ballingarry.  I have a good idea now of the parish records which I need to try  and find to see if they still exist. Thanks for your help.  Anniebelle.
McDowell, Co Cavan, Co Monaghan-NSW
Davidson, Co Down-NSW
Hayes, Co Tipperary-Vic, NSW
Hayes, Co Wexford-NSW
Kennedy, Co Tipperary-Vic, NSW
McAlary, McIlhinney, Keilt, McNichol, Shannon Co Derry-Vic, NSW
Rochester, Sussex-NSW
Matthews, Kent-NSW
Lyons/Hynes Co Kildare-NSW
Grimes, Lancashire-NSW
Hall, Essex/London-NSW
Seath, Kent-NSW
Long, Woolwich-NSW
Meyer, Heist, Germany-Vic
Goldsmith, Gordon, Wall, Co Wexford-Vic,NSW
Fraser, Hassard, Fermanagh, St Helens, Lancashire-Vic

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Re: Re: Any tips for researching in Gorey
« Reply #23 on: Monday 08 February 10 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Gerard

Thanks for the info.

Andy

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Re: Re: Any tips for researching in Gorey
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 10 February 10 00:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tina,

Your sheehan might be a new connection for me too via the sunderland marriage. There is no census for 1853. What i looked up is an article "those who survived the famine" - its some sort of list of townlands and names. So sheehan and sunderlands would have been neighbours or not lived far from each other.

We only have the 1901 or 1911 censu to go on. 1911 is online at the national archives of ireland & it would be sheehan you would be looking up.

Sunderlands are buried in the ancient graveyard of Clonattin. Which is basically about half a mile from Ballyscartin- as the crow flies you would be going over a few fields. It is a very old graveyard.
I looked up the book on the graveyard and the following sheehans are mentioned:

SHEEHAN, erected by margaret sheehan, courtown harbour in memory of her husband patrick sheehan, who died 11th Feb 1880, aged 65 years. Also her daughter Elizabeth, who died 8th Oct
1877 aged 8 years, and her son who died young.

(its a bit odd if they are living in courtown they would have come all the way back to this graveyard (they could have gone to riverchapel graveyard) - so maybe they had links -i hope its a clue for you)

if you have any other questions give me a post.

Gerard
Fleming, Walsh, Masterson, Tobin of Co. Kilkenny.
Doyle, Donovan, Kennedy, Sunderland, Behan, Pender, Kinsella of Co.Wexford

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Re: Re: Any tips for researching in Gorey
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 25 February 10 00:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andy,
There is a guy in Gorey named Michael Fitzpatrick who knows all the local
history. Gorey library will have his details.
Good Luck
Maggie_may

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Re: Re: Any tips for researching in Gorey
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 25 February 10 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Maggie-May

Thanks for the info

Andy