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Re: Surprising, disappointing, lack of courtesy in some replies
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 22 September 16 00:09 BST (UK) »
Yes Groom,   :)

We all experience those responses over time, it takes a lot to wind me up, it's not worth getting stressed over.  ;)
I have had people put the information I have given them on Ancestry & also those connecting to my tree by mistake, even one descended from convicts with similar name trying to make out they are from a more distinguished line, ::) but most Aussies brag about having a convict these days.  ;D
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Re: Surprising, disappointing, lack of courtesy in some replies
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 22 September 16 01:18 BST (UK) »
.....

I have posted on that thread, it started out on the main Australia Board.  :)  The OP's profile shows she is based in Australia. 

Could amnak be referring to this thread ?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756253.0



Possibly, but that is more of a discussion thread and they do sometimes get quite heated as everyone has their own opinion. There are also some people who like to post on that type of thread to wind others up. The simple answer is, don't read them, stick to the genealogy threads. I haven't seen many inappropriate comments on those, unless it is out of frustration when someone just makes wild guesses or assumptions which either don't help or, even worse, lead people the wrong way. People also, understandably, get frustrated at lack of thanks - but that has been covered in numerous other threads!




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Re: Surprising, disappointing, lack of courtesy in some replies
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 22 September 16 01:34 BST (UK) »
Reading some contributions, in a couple of different threads, from a newcomer today, I was puzzled at  the patronising, even sarcastic responses from 2-3 long time Rootschatters.

It resembled clique behaviour.

To me, an average RC, it really jarred. Our opinions and understandings may not always agree, but surely we can manage basic civility.

I have had another read back through that thread .... I cannot see any clique behaviour, or patronising or even sarcastic responses, so NOPE,  I doubt Annmck was referring to that thread. 

Forthright, direct, factual, sharing lived experiences YES....  typical responses for Australian Baby Boomers with family history research as their past-time for the decades and decades of their lives.

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Re: Surprising, disappointing, lack of courtesy in some replies
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 22 September 16 01:42 BST (UK) »
Well.....What can I say  ???

I have just read the post in question from "Chuck Kinney"

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=755619.0

In his opening post;

"I am trying to go back before James and Mary who are stated as being born in Ireland.  Sideways to see if my Grandfather's siblings had children and with that if there are any kids that go forward to today like probably cousins to me.  They may be in the US or Ireland"

He was asked for further info. to help his quest, reasonable, sensible questions;

"Have you got William's birth or marriage to confirm his parents are James and Mary?
Have you got a birth of one or more of James or Mary's children to find out Mary's maiden name.
You also need their religious denomination"


This would have given both parents names with hopefully the mother's maiden name & possibly a date & place of marriage (I don't know what info. is on USA certs.) which in turn would have possibly helped to find a location in Ireland?

Parts of Chuck's 2nd post in reply were;

"My suspected Grandfather William's Death Certificate was not filled in to any great extent, leaving more questions than answers. 
One of the things I was here for was help or a tip/clue that might lead me back before James and Mary to Ireland"


My immediate thought here is "Chuck" was not happy that he didn't get the info. he would have liked.

Well Chuck, I think you 1st need to go back 2 Generations before you even start looking at James & Mary for the simple reason being, you are not even sure if William is your Grandfather.

"My suspected Grandfather William"  ???  ::)

From what I see, you were getting the best help possible from some of the Best/Knowledgeable RC'ers on here!!!

These people give up their own time to give others help in the best capacity possible at all times.

Genealogy is like forensics where every thread of evidence/every clue (no matter how small), helps lead to the answer.

If someone was found "dead", would you expect the Police to know who it was without them asking questions/finding out facts to determine who it was?

Genealogists work with a similar format!!!

The Police gather together (round a table), write down everything known, question people/summarise crucial facts/info. etc. to draw conclusions,

At Rootschat, the "table" is invisible (it's the thread they are investigating which is the "table").

These people use their knowledge to gain crucial information/evidence to draw conclusions.

They/We are Genealogists who gather info. & analyse it.......NOT Psychics with Crystal Balls.

I think your post on this thread was diabolical, way out of context & immoral.

As for naming those people "Jerks", tells me/others a lot about yourself but I don't need to put it in writing as it is quite obvious, I'm sure.

A final thought....you cannot do a "true" family tree without supporting evidence as you have already proved yourself, the fact you are chasing g g/parents yet have stated you don't know if your g/dad is actually who you think he is  ???

Happy hunting as I think you have now put (the very people who could have helped you) off, with your degrading remarks.
Some of those people are specialists in Irish Genealogy!!!

Annie

ADDED; As I stated earlier, we "analyse" & it did not take much analysing to work out there may be a connection with you & OP but, just as you have been doing with your family tree, I too can only assume  ::)
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: Surprising, disappointing, lack of courtesy in some replies
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 22 September 16 02:02 BST (UK) »
"diabolical, way out of context & immoral."

Um, let's not go overboard.
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Re: Surprising, disappointing, lack of courtesy in some replies
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 22 September 16 02:35 BST (UK) »
Erato,

You may not be aware but there are several meanings to the word "Diabolical", one of which is the word "Cruel"!

"Way out of context", was referring to the word Chuck himself used "Grilled"!

"Immoral", he obviously has no thought for others when he can call them "Jerks"!

There's a couple of sayings he may like to read & take in...

"Never bite the hand that feeds" & "Don't foul in your own nest"

I rest my case!!!

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Surprising, disappointing, lack of courtesy in some replies
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 22 September 16 02:48 BST (UK) »
Now Now,  steady up, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water, and let's please remember that posts on these boards are easily read by Guests who do not need to log in.  As I type this reply, there's 188 guests, 40 RChatters including a GM online.

May I please gently note that in my world, the expression "diabolical, way out of context & immoral"  are not is not an appropriate words expression to use in the context of a conversation about family history experiences.


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I think your post on this thread was diabolical, way out of context & immoral ....
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Re: Surprising, disappointing, lack of courtesy in some replies
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 22 September 16 02:59 BST (UK) »
JM,

Are you "getting at me" for the words I used in conjunction with the post I'm referring too but "letting it go" with someone else calling people "Jerks"?

I was using words appropriate "in context" in reply to emphasise the post was "ott".

People can't expect answers if there is no information to look up i.e. they need to be questioned.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Surprising, disappointing, lack of courtesy in some replies
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 22 September 16 03:08 BST (UK) »
Annie and JM I agree with both of you.

And here I sit smiling.

Annie I'm one for the dramatic and I think that over the top or not, the words used clearly indicate that you feel passionately about the topic to which you have referred.

Reminds me of someone who suggested that some of us on the Australia board were 'snipey', which I am still not convinced is a word, but the intention of the poster using it was still blatantly clear.

Jamjar

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