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Easiest way to double check Census Info listed on Find My Past
« on: Friday 23 September 16 16:40 BST (UK) »
Cant get onto Scotlands People today  :-X  Looking at an 1851 Census for Dunmaglass, Daviot, Nairn, Scotland for the Shaw Family (Head being William Shaw, Married, Shepherd, birth year 1777 Inverness-shire).  My question is, is it actually FindMyPast that transcribes the originals??  Wondering if there has been a mistake somewhere along the line, as everything ties in for the Family apart from the wife and the daughters names;  FindMyPast says Elizabeth (for both) and I suspect it should be Isabel/Isabella (for both) - any other way of double checking this when SP is out of action??  Thanks folks.  Shall try and copy & paste the link to the record, but it may not work...
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbc%2f1851%2f0020456268
Shaw & McGillivray (Daviot & Dunlichity, Dores, Inverness & Nairn)
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 September 16 16:52 BST (UK) »
Hi

You could try Family search. 

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 September 16 16:56 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has the same names for that entry as FindMyPast. 
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 September 16 16:56 BST (UK) »
Both Ancestry and Freecen have them both down as Elizabeth as well.
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 September 16 16:57 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 September 16 17:01 BST (UK) »
As I understand it, Isabella and Elizabeth were often used interchangeably by the owners of the name.
Elizabeth was the modern/English name; Isabella was the older form/traditional name.  Maybe they wanted to be trendier.

Depending on how you were asked you might give a different answer. 

"What is your name?": Elizabeth. *writes that down*
"What is your name?": Elizabeth. "Is that the name you were christened with in church?": Well ... no, we put Isabella then, but now we use Elizabeth ... been using it for years now, we prefer it. *Writes Isabella*

And/or maybe even an enumerator had old-fashioned/out-dated views and an "I know best" attitude and might even change Elizabeths for Isabellas because they felt superior in knowledge to the person saying their name.

All enumerators were still laden with their own opinions, prejudices, insistencies and "little ways".
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 September 16 18:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all that folks;  looks like I will have to bide my time till SP opens again just to satisfy my own mind;  The Father & two sons Occupations & DOB match, its just the Elizabeth/Isabella question?  Tending to agree with you 'StanleysC'.... have had previous documents for 'Christian' being written as Christy/Christina & Maggie no less!  ::)   It may of course be an explanation as to why I havent been able to find his wifes death recorded, as I have been looking for Isabella Shaw/Cameron (as seen on one document) - I should perhaps be looking for Elizabeth Shaw/Cameron .... roll on Monday when SP opens its online doors again  :D
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 September 16 18:16 BST (UK) »
As I understand it, Isabella and Elizabeth were often used interchangeably by the owners of the name.
Elizabeth was the modern/English name; Isabella was the older form/traditional name.  Maybe they wanted to be trendier.

Depending on how you were asked you might give a different answer. 

"What is your name?": Elizabeth. *writes that down*
"What is your name?": Elizabeth. "Is that the name you were christened with in church?": Well ... no, we put Isabella then, but now we use Elizabeth ... been using it for years now, we prefer it. *Writes Isabella*

And/or maybe even an enumerator had old-fashioned/out-dated views and an "I know best" attitude and might even change Elizabeths for Isabellas because they felt superior in knowledge to the person saying their name.

All enumerators were still laden with their own opinions, prejudices, insistencies and "little ways".


I think you are actually spot on StanleysC..... from 'whatsinaname' website...  'quote' ..

Note:  Due to the derivation, it has been a long tradition in Scotland for Elizabeth and Isabel [and their variants, pet names, etc] to be used interchangeably, i.e. as synonyms. This can be confusing when searching through older records and care should be taken to consider this possibility when researching.

'unquote'  :)
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McTavish (Inverness-shire)