Eleanor, Thomas or Mary Astley in 1841 or 1851 in Lapworth?

[Davedrave]

IGI says that Eleanor Astley, daughter of Thomas and Mary, was baptised in Lapworth in 1836. She married William Hickin in Lapworth in 1855 (FeeBMD) and I have Ellen Hickin (26), born Lapworth,  in the 1861 Census in Lapworth. However, I can find no trace of her or her parents in 1841 or 1851, at least on Findmypast. I suspect a possible problem with transcribing and wonder if anyone with access to an alternative website might be able to help,

Thanks,

Dave

[MaureeninNY]

I think the name is HASLEY in 1841 (FindMyPast).

Maureen

[MaureeninNY]

There's an Eleanor CHESSHIRE born Lapworth 1836 with parents Thomas and Mary in 1851.
Two siblings-Joseph and Thomas (age 9).

Thomas seems to go on to marry with the name Thomas Astley CHESSHIRE.

Maureen

[Davedrave]

Hi Maureen,

Many thanks, the names and ages look very suggestive, but goodness knows what has happened with the surname. I can see that "Hasley" could be "Astley" mis-transcribed by the enumerator, but I can't see how to reconcile the Chesshire part!

Dave

[MaureeninNY]

Hi Dave,

I can't figure out the CHESSHIRE part either unless Mary has just taken up with Mr CHESSHIRE. I don't see a likely marriage for them.

Young Thomas is a bit of a mystery as well. I don't see a birth for him under any variation of either name.

Isn't Family History fun?

Maureen

[MaureeninNY]

Brother Joseph marries as ASTLEY Dec Qtr 1858 Solihull to Hannah HAYES.

He's on the census records as CHES*RE.

Maureen

[MaureeninNY]

Just noticed that the marriage image for Eleanor is on A*try. (transcribed as Wen ASTLEY.)
Her father's name has been written as Thomas CHESHIRE. The CHESHIRE has been crossed through and ASTLEY written above it.

M

[Davedrave]

Many thanks Maureen.

I wonder whether Mary was married to Thomas Astley and had Joseph and Eleanor, and that she was then widowed and soon re-married? co-habited with? a Mr Chesshire, coincidentally the same age and forename, and that they then had son Thomas. (But why then no record of these events?). 

I did lose the children of a different family and it turned out that the two oldest children were listed as if the children of their step-father (in 1861), after their widowed mother had re-married, but were listed under their baptised names again by 1871.

Dave

[jim1]

While trying to bring something to the party (& failing) I noticed this Baptism in Lapworth:
20/2/1841 Thomas Artley s. of Thomas & Mary. Thomas' occupation is labourer.
Looking at the image it's Astley.
Coincidence or not further up the page there's a Baptism for a Mary Chesshire with parents Thomas & Mary. He's a farmer.
& a possible Baptism for Mary:
Lapworth 9/6/1805 Maria dau. of James & Eleanor Cheshire.
I mention this as she had a daughter Eleanor. The only anomaly is that in 1851 she gives her POB as Beoley or maybe Bearley.
Not her, she married Samuel Greswold in 1829.