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Elizabeth Mabley/Mably date of death query
« on: Sunday 02 October 16 23:04 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Mabley (before marriage Davey) married Thomas Mably/Mabley on 10 july 1858 in Stoke Damerel.  She was aged 30 and he was aged 27 on their marriage certificate.

Thomas Mabley was born in St Endellion, Cornwall. 

Their son William Henry Mabley was born on 13 January 1859 at "Farmhouse Synwell Anthony". 

In 1861, William Henry Mabley is with his paternal grandparents Richard and Phillipa Mably without his parents in St Endellion.

I can't find his parents Thomas and Elizabeth in 1861.

In 1861, there is a Thomas Mably, widower at Trevanson aged 27 which I think may be William Henry's father. 

The problem is that I can't find a death for Elizabeth between 1859 and 1861. 

I think Thomas may have died in 1868 in St Columb but can't be sure.

I'd really appreciate some help on this.

Many thanks



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Re: Elizabeth Mabley/Mably date of death query
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 October 16 20:47 BST (UK) »
the Thomas on the 1861 census & the death registered at St Columb could refer to the Thomas Mabley born in St Columb Major son of William & Mary born 18 April 1834 & registered in Bodmin Wesleyan circuit 7 May 1834,

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms_nc&id=186153

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JW8S-443

The family is in Bank Street in St Columb Major in 1841, but I can't see them after that.
OK, think you can discount this Thomas. I've found him in the US, first in Michigan, then in Ohio so at least he's out of the picture. His death in 1905
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F6ZT-8W1

And I 'visited' some family as 2 of my greatgrandfather's uncles were a few houses away from this Mabley family in St Columb Major in 1841.

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Re: Elizabeth Mabley/Mably date of death query
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 October 16 01:30 BST (UK) »
I'm wondering if this is Elizabeth's death entry:

Elizabeth Maibrey  Mar.qtr.1861 St. Germans

Cornwall Monumental Inscriptions also have:

Elizabeth Maibrey aged 33, died 20/1/1861 - Place is just given as St. John!

I first wondered whether the GRO has mistranscribed it when entering to the index but the M.I. has the same spelling.   Right timeframe, right age for Elizabeth Mabley.

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Re: Elizabeth Mabley/Mably date of death query
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 February 17 15:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Osprey and Annette for your replies.  Sorry it has taken me so long to respond.  I have just found out that some Rootschat emails are going directly to my spam folder and I am afraid that I may have missed these it is only now I am replying.

Yes - it is good to eliminate a "wrong" Thomas Mabley/Mably.

And I was interested to see the Elizabeth MAIBREY entry.  Well done! 

"Maibrey" must surely be some other name incorrectly spelt!  I can't find any other on Family Search though there are Mawbreys...  I couldn't find a marriage of a Mr Maibrey to an Elizabeth in Devon/Cornwall.

St John's parish I understand is in the St Germans Registration District.  I am not sure where this is in relation to the farms/places mentioned in my first post.  If only people HAD to fill in census forms honestly and every year!
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Re: Elizabeth Mabley/Mably date of death query
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 February 17 17:30 GMT (UK) »
I would really appreciate it if someone was able to check the St Johns (St Germans) parish records to check the original spelling and details of the death/burial entry for Elizabeth Maibrey died 20 Jan 1861.

As you can see from my earlier post, I am really looking for Elizabeth Mabley/Mably who may have died between 1859 and 1861.  Born Elizabeth Davey abt 1828.

Checking the Elizabeth Maibrey entry will at least help in the process of elimination!

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Llangurig & Bedlinog: Rees
Llanonn: Williams
Charfield:  Fowler; Selman
Olveston:  Fisher
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Re: Elizabeth Mabley/Mably date of death query
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 February 17 17:45 GMT (UK) »
you can check the registers via FamilySearch. I'd say it's Maibrey abode Sunwell in Antony tying in with the birth cert. Age looks like 23 though.
 
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Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
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Re: Elizabeth Mabley/Mably date of death query
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 February 17 17:58 GMT (UK) »
just checked GRO index and age on death reg is given as 32 which makes more sense, numbers wrong way around on burial register.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Elizabeth Mabley/Mably date of death query
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 February 17 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Osprey.  I am wondering however whether the surname is more like "Mayberry" than "Mably" and I have been trying to find an Elizabeth Mayberry that would fit so I can eliminate this record.  Or otherwise...

I was impressed to see that you had a link to the Cornish parish records on Family Search.  How can I access that for other counties?  Elizabeth Mably/Davey was born in Devon.  I could not see how to access it without using the link you provided.

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Woodmancote:  Hobbs; Davison
Bisley:  Fisher
Eastcombe:  Winstone
Chalford:  Lambert
Newent:  Bowkett
Llangurig: Owen; Jones
Llangurig & Bedlinog: Rees
Llanonn: Williams
Charfield:  Fowler; Selman
Olveston:  Fisher
Batheaston: Fisher
Andover, Hurstbourne, Woodcutt, Shinfield: Farmer & Tanner
Alresford: Sprangle; Hack
Martletwy & Llangwig:  Davies

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Re: Elizabeth Mabley/Mably date of death query
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 February 17 18:32 GMT (UK) »
it's not available for all counties. You can access Cornwall here, but not all registers available for every parish

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h80/ 

If you look at the historical registers on FamilySearch, the ones with the camera icon have images, click on the record set you want & then on browse images to see what is available.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb