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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #684 on: Saturday 15 July 17 21:29 BST (UK) »
Mind set of a line of research from belief census information is accurate as county of birth, when known can be flimsy especially the  1841c to a birth place, yet overlook or dismiss the obvious in this belief, trade at marriage with an age to relates a year of birth from the ancestor and signed by himself twice marriage and bond allegation on different dates.  The surname and trade are prominent in Glasgow as Scottish origins that has the surname and the trade. - The obvious is - Hood a Cooper & well educated.

The John Hood publican Ship inn Gateshead 1787 trades directory, (Indirectly the trade does relate to barrels and upkeep of) does not fit in with known Hood's of Gateshead just as George Hood of Selby a cooper, brewer, tanner, general businessman does not relate to known Hood's of Selby mariner(s) (illiterate ?). Thus was John Hood father of George Hood bapt 1786 Gateshead  an innkeeper publican from Glasgow that was connected to the known Hood booze and barrel trade freemasons of Glasgow.

Barrels for general use

Special barrels to make/brew/mature store whisky & beer
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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #685 on: Saturday 15 July 17 23:48 BST (UK) »
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Eliza Hord was born at Hull ( I think) - meeting place: Qwstwick,  monthly meeting:  Hull.
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Samuel HOARE (  Banker ) married Sarah GURNEY in 1776 Norfolk

then there is another marriage

Samuel Hoare Jnr (banker) married Hannah Sterry in London 1788

He was the son of Samuel HOARE ( merchant of London) and Grizell GURNELL ( married 1746)

In 1806 Samuel Hoare, (son of Samuel the banker) married Louisa Gurney in Norfolk.

EDIT: This family were seriously loaded!
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #686 on: Sunday 16 July 17 01:22 BST (UK) »
George Cockin married MARY PINDER in Luddington, Lincs. ( both are buried in Lincs) but died in Yorkshire. He died in March 1838 - I have an Admon record.

Two children:

William Cockin bn 1809 Lincs. He married Ann Hudson ( a widow nee Clayton)  in 1860 Eastrington.

Elizabeth Cockin bn 1821 Blacktoft, Yorkshire. Had to look twice when I saw who she married  :)

1844 Elizabeth Cockin married George WOOD a brewer, father John Wood.

Pinder was a name that appeared in the Quaker records at Hull/Owstwick alongside Dickenson, Hord, Casson etc.


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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #687 on: Sunday 16 July 17 02:07 BST (UK) »
Given the Hoods may have been of Scottish descent, and the amount of millers and corn merchants we keep coming across. Maybe it might be worth checking some things out.

Note this George in the record was from Berwick ( wasn't the Naval man on the Acasta from Berwick perhaps)

http://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/welcome.aspx
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #688 on: Sunday 16 July 17 09:22 BST (UK) »
The thing is, these trades of George are 3 highly skilled trades to learn also later knew how to run businesses- (Could be learned on the job though)

Common barrel maker -cooper (Carpenter/Hooper/B-Smith)
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Maturing Leather or  Brew and barrel upkeep


Brewing and maturing whisky incorporated preparing the inside of the barrel by burning and smoking it storage casks of the cooper-brewer (Scotland mainly)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqopSMvCXv0

https://thewhiskeywash.com/whiskey-styles/american-whiskey/the-heat-of-the-moment-charred-barrel-vs-toasted-barrel/

Tanning is similar long term soaking up to a year of the leather in vat baths - Make wood vats, prepare,  care of repair of insides of vats, as it effect the leather.


 https://www.nps.gov/jame/learn/historyculture/tanning-in-the-seventeenth-century.htm

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These trades of George suggest he was brought up around brewing and maturing of  items and educated enough to conduct business with professional people of the time like bankers- solicitors and later a (2nd down from churchwarden in rank) Overseer of the parish (not Quaker ) which suggest he was Anglican admin of Selby.

Buried in Quaker burial ground but not a Quaker

Burial grounds in Selby to bury bodies till the cemetery opened 1858 was drying up at the Abbey - disease was rampant with typhoid and other similar complaints. 

These at researchable facts not scenario theories
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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #689 on: Sunday 16 July 17 09:37 BST (UK) »

George Cockin married MARY PINDER in Luddington, Lincs. ( both are buried in Lincs) but died in Yorkshire. He died in March 1838 - I have an Admon record.

Two children:

William Cockin bn 1809 Lincs. He married Ann Hudson ( a widow nee Clayton)  in 1860 Eastrington.

Elizabeth Cockin bn 1821 Blacktoft, Yorkshire. Had to look twice when I saw who she married  :)

1844 Elizabeth Cockin married George WOOD a brewer, father John Wood.

Pinder was a name that appeared in the Quaker records at Hull/Owstwick alongside Dickenson, Hord, Casson etc.


Hello

Thanks for all replies. A researcher once said to me the clue is in the burial. This is why burials can be so important and a great number of Parish Register films were searched, to try and find it.

Been reading bits of a recent book, which in part, use the Whitby Quaker Meeting Minutes of over 200 years ago. In the book, persons associating with Quakers (i.e. non Quakers) were being recorded in the Quaker Minutes.


Still the Rule Today
"Each area meeting shall maintain a list of attenders and of children not in membership associated with its several meetings for worship or shall arrange that such lists shall be kept by overseers. An attender is one who, not being a member, frequently attends a specific meeting for worship."


Armed with this recent information, it would be highly foolish of me now, to know that:-

1. George was known to have business / property links with Quakers;
2. Jonathan Hutchinson (Selby Quaker) was appointed Umpire and Arbitrator in George Hood's Will;
3. not all Quaker Registers are online (online scanned from the RG 6 - (Register General) series), because I have just discovered that the Quakers failed to deposit some BMD Registers with the Registrar General around 1840;
4. George and part of his family were buried in a Quaker burial ground as "Not in Membership";
5. Two Sons became Quakers ...

and not to go and see the surviving Local and Area Quaker Minutes next.

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George HOOD of Selby Before 1812 - Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #690 on: Sunday 16 July 17 12:33 BST (UK) »
May not be related ...

London Gazette
1st May 1827

JOHN JAMES HOOD otherwise WOOD LINGARD


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The question is now, is this chap passing himself off as Wood simply due financial pressures (to hide), or has he, or an ancestor changed from WOOD to HOOD.


According to my late Grandmother we are supposed to be Hood. I'll see these Quaker Minutes asap.

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« Reply #691 on: Monday 17 July 17 12:48 BST (UK) »
Hello

Looking for any Hutchinson & Hood link, before 1845?

Yorkshire Archaeological Society Documents

Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby
This Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby mentioned in the 1846 Probate of George Hood of Selby, has some apparent family links!

Jonathan Hutchinson the Younger, Surgeon of Finsbury Circus Middlesex.

Henry Hutchinson of Bozeat, County of Northampton, Farmer.

Edward Hutchinson, Ironmaker of Darlington, Co. Durham.

Charles Hutchinson of Selby, Merchant.

Francis Hutchinson, Glassman, of Fishergate in the suburbs of York.


It would appear that there is some type of Trust spanning 1810 1869, 1874 and a William Harbottle of Burn is mentioned.


Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby and New Zealand, n.d. (Book description written by Roger Felix Hutchinson, 1980?)
The family of Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, have links with the colonies at Waihuka, New Zealand and possibly Mahaki, New Zealand.



Separate Document
In a separate document in the YAS collection, Glew of Selby and a William Harbottle of Burn Hall are mentioned and incidentally a line has been struck through the name of a John Pexton Gibson, Innkeeper and John Pexton Gibson, Scarborough - this chap appears in the Commercial Gazette of 1890.


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George HOOD of Selby Before 1812 - Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #692 on: Monday 17 July 17 14:00 BST (UK) »
For others to read, interesting link this - from page 10

https://library.leeds.ac.uk/multimedia/imu/20138/YAS_MD217.pdf
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
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