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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #846 on: Saturday 21 October 17 15:14 BST (UK) »
This William Hoods family have been looked at before

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6078952#msg6078952

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The other Will I mentioned yesterday of a William Massey in Spalding 1846 was the father of William Massey of Selby - mentions J Hutchinson etc. A wealthy family.
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #847 on: Saturday 21 October 17 18:04 BST (UK) »
This William Hoods family have been looked at before

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6078952#msg6078952

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The other Will I mentioned yesterday of a William Massey in Spalding 1846 was the father of William Massey of Selby - mentions J Hutchinson etc. A wealthy family.

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Thanks Claire, I wondered if there was any reference to Pearson (Pierson / Peirson) or Cook(e) please in the 1846 Wm Massey of Spalding Will?

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Regarding your Richard Cliffe of Selby and Wells Hood being vessel owners:-

1835
"The Selby Insurance Company is for the insuring of sea-going Vessels chiefly employed in the Yorkshire coasting Trade. Mr Richard Cliffe is President, Mr John Lumb, Treasurer, and Mr George Lowther, Secretary."

Probably explains link with Selby.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #848 on: Sunday 22 October 17 00:16 BST (UK) »
No references to any Pearson or Cook, all money & property left to family - children - John, William, Catherine & Sarah Procter Evans and wife Sarah.

A codicil made after the deaths of William Massey of Selby & Sarah Procter Evans left their shares to John Massey,  S P Evans's children and Catherine.
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The other William Massey of Sutton who was also a co-owner of the sloops/schooners with Wells Hood and others was first married to Mary QUARTON. I'm thinking she is possibly the daughter of the Quarton that married Hannah RICHARDSON nee HOOD.
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #849 on: Sunday 22 October 17 10:27 BST (UK) »
No references to any Pearson or Cook, all money & property left to family - children - John, William, Catherine & Sarah Procter Evans and wife Sarah.

A codicil made after the deaths of William Massey of Selby & Sarah Procter Evans left their shares to John Massey,  S P Evans's children and Catherine.
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The other William Massey of Sutton who was also a co-owner of the sloops/schooners with Wells Hood and others was first married to Mary QUARTON. I'm thinking she is possibly the daughter of the Quarton that married Hannah RICHARDSON nee HOOD.

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Thanks Claire.

'Lawson' Schooner
Registration number/year: 42/1840
Master: Joseph Cliff
Built: Boroughbridge 1840
Builder: Robert Green

Owners at time of registration:
Richard Cliff, Selby, ship owner,
John Banks, Barlow, timber merchant,
William Massey, Sutton on Derwent, timber merchant,
Wells Hood, York, wine merchant,
Robert Green, Boroughbridge, ship builder

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Another concidence. Hood; Massey; Green and Boroughbridge, also the ship owner of Selby.

Different Wm Massey.


This Richard & William Hood families linked with Catwick both mention the Trust re Primitive Methodist Connexion.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.msg6338658#msg6338658

Manor of Catwick, nr Leven ... (once owned by Richard Hood) thread p.4
Quarton in the Will summary
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=752071.msg6333722#msg6333722

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That George Hood of Burslem (Pottery Manufacturer) with a Massey, in the 1841, wondering if that is a coincidence too.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #850 on: Sunday 22 October 17 12:32 BST (UK) »
1850 Hood Mortgage re Catwick, Stamford Bridge and Leven
Two of the parties in 2) were James Richardson and James Coke Richardson

A Cooke Richardson died the 14th April 1809, aged 8 months.
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #851 on: Sunday 22 October 17 23:08 BST (UK) »
James Richardson and James Coke Richardson are likely father & son. The latter being born & baptised 4 May 1831 son of James & Elizabeth Catherine Coke

James Richardson was a solicitor.

James Richardson and Elizabeth Catherine Coke ROWE married in York by licence 10 Feb. 1825
Witnesses: Charlotte Richardson, John Wood,  Joseph Wood, Elizabeth Wright, M Hotham, ? Crosby, Catherine and Elizabeth Thompson.

Wasn't Rowe the maiden surname of the Spencer lady who died in Scarborough?

EDIT: Can't be a relation to the Spencers this lady was born in Newfoundland, America from the census - or Canada from 1949.
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #852 on: Monday 23 October 17 01:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks Claire

Afraid, proving George's origin is impossible.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #853 on: Monday 23 October 17 02:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Claire

Afraid, proving George's origin is impossible.

Mark

I depends if you have found anything realistically worthy of further investigation to try to find proof or even strong indication ? one is on the right track.

George's educational and acquired occupational knowledge came from somewhere ? either from a working class or trading middle class or poor law education with an apprenticeship or running a business education. ? To acquire a tenancy at Wren lane, surely George would have had to have shown with occupational reference credentials, he was capable of making an income to pay the rent for the premises, and especially after R Gibson had gone bust - the property owner would be more inclined to seek further reassurance he would get the rent money off the next tenant George Hood.
 

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #854 on: Monday 23 October 17 08:58 BST (UK) »
Hello

Thanks dobfarm.

Regarding the "Not in Membership" Quaker burial and Richard Taylor's comment suggesting the family origin to be rather transient. James Hood his ancestor was Brother of my 3 X Gt. Grandfather John Hood.

Mystery George wasn't a Quaker, Membership refused in 1836, but likely an 'attender'

Perhaps before George Hood settled at Selby, he was transient too.

Possibly him at Knottingley 1813, if so, two places at once.

The mystery James Cookin, witness, on the Hood = Russell 1815 Selby Marriage.
Added Looking at this signature again, I can't make my mind up, if it says JANE COOKIN and they wrote Jane on the B.T. copy too?


Some of these new Independent meetings lacked numbers, Selby Independent had stopped for a while late 18th Century, and a book & pdf refers to Ministers 1810 - 1812 coming from Hull.


Presbyterian at Selby (est c.1700), later became Unitarian 19th Century.


James Cockin, founded the Intinerant Society 1811 ... references to Northowram; Heckmondwike, Rotherham and Idle. Also Hoxton Academy. Added another says Joseph Cockin.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1S68AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA193&lpg=PA193&dq=%22James+Cockin%22&source=bl&ots=9UnJ1FsWFi&sig=gM1gRW4wlj7TfhbUjroegUUmsr0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiE85bn_IHXAhWIKVAKHeqvD8k4FBDoAQgcMAA


Reference to John Cockin (1783 to 1861) and Father Joseph Cockin (b.1755) a student at Heckmondwike (Heckmondwyke) under James Scott of Thornton and Halifax.

Reference to an 18th August 1811 meeting, which gave birth to the West Riding Intinerant Society.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1WlKAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA141&lpg=PA141&dq=Cockin+%22Itinerant+Society%22&source=bl&ots=viofMMzk4-&sig=KVSumeUSS-8AcOBc4q6mj2iEbXY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIluezgILXAhXIY1AKHeeNDHAQ6AEIITAC

Also the Son James Hood of Selby, marrying a Selby Wesleyan.

The four surviving Sons were split religiously, two becoming Quakers one marrying a Wesleyan to begin with; William Hood becoming a C of E Minister, so a Religious family, C of E and Other Faiths.

George Hood Marriage by Licence, with an Allegation and Bond too, but not marrying for two months and resident at Selby two years.

Sarah Russell was C of E, but above suggests the mystery George Hood was probably not.

Mark


Dissenters Academies provided education, besides preparing Dissenting Ministers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dissenting_academies_(1660%E2%80%931800)