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Re: Minnie Sophia England&Frederick William Waters in Vic & NSW
« Reply #9 on: Monday 10 October 16 03:02 BST (UK) »
If it is your Frederick then this is possibly his parents' marriage

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Jun 1885   
ANGELL Kate      Barton Regis 6a/148    
WATERS Frederick  Barton Regis 6a/148


Deaths Sep 1886 
WATERS Kate 20 years Barton Regis 6a/74

Possibly her birth
Births Dec 1865 
ANGEL Kate         Clifton    6a/124

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Re: Minnie Sophia England&Frederick William Waters in Vic & NSW
« Reply #10 on: Monday 10 October 16 03:15 BST (UK) »
Did you see this death reg? Odd that it has Angle (sic), as Minnie's maiden name:

Death: Vic May WATERS
Fredk Wm
Minnie Sophia (Angle)
Reg. year1906
Reg. no6488

I can't find marriages/deaths for the boys.

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Re: Minnie Sophia England&Frederick William Waters in Vic & NSW
« Reply #11 on: Monday 10 October 16 03:21 BST (UK) »
The birth record for Victoria May has ENGLAND as the mother's maiden name.  Obviously a mistranscription or recorded incorrectly by the local bdm registrar.

Minnie was alone on the electoral rolls with occupation cook at one stage.
She was in NSW by 1930 where she was on the rolls until her death.

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Re: Minnie Sophia England&Frederick William Waters in Vic & NSW
« Reply #12 on: Monday 10 October 16 03:29 BST (UK) »
Buried with Frederick at Springvale is:

Rose Emily Waters Buried 07/05/1951
Church of England, Compartment O, Section 7, Grave 21

Yes, the birth does, Cando.

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Re: Minnie Sophia England&Frederick William Waters in Vic & NSW
« Reply #13 on: Monday 10 October 16 03:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cando for all the info about to run out of connection.Annette
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Re: Minnie Sophia England&Frederick William Waters in Vic & NSW
« Reply #14 on: Monday 10 October 16 03:53 BST (UK) »
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Fredk Arth b 1907 Carlton

The Age  2 Oct 1935
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article203856269
PERSISTENT HOUSEBREAKER.
Declared Habitual Criminal.
Four Years and Reformatory.
A prisoner who had a bad record was severely dealt with by Judge Woinarski in the Court of General Sessions yesterday. He was Frederick Arthur Waters, 28 years, of no fixed place or abode, laborer, and he pleaded guilty to four prior convictions.

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Re: Minnie Sophia England&Frederick William Waters in Vic & NSW
« Reply #15 on: Monday 10 October 16 03:59 BST (UK) »
Frederick William did not marry again before 1942, limit of my marriage resource.

Australian Electoral Roll
1931
WATERS Frederick William 50 Whitehall Street, Footscray   Bootmaker

1934, 1936, 1937
WATERS Frederick William  21 Railway Place Footscray   Bootmaker

1949
WATERS Frederick William  24 Railway Place Footscray   Bootmaker
WATERS Rose Emily  21 Railway Place Footscray HD

1954
WATERS Frederick William 312 Springfield Road,  Nunawading  No occupation

Death
WATERS Rose Emily
Father Phillip JOHNS  Mother Emily Partridge
At Nunawading  74 years 1951  Reg#7753

Birth
JOHNS Rose Emily
Father Phillip  Mother Emily Ann PARTRIDGE
At Ballarat East  1875  Reg#6988


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Re: Minnie Sophia England&Frederick William Waters in Vic & NSW
« Reply #16 on: Monday 10 October 16 04:44 BST (UK) »
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Wm Hy b 1909 Carlton

The Williamstown Chronicle
  20 Feb 1926
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article69517238
YOUTH SENT TO GAOL
William Henry Waters, a youth of 17, residing at Nelson-place, Williamstown, was sentenced to three months' imprisonment at the local court on Tuesday on each of two charges of
larceny. A number of other charges against the accused were subsequently withdrawn.
Waters was charged with stealing a quantity of lead piping, the property of Andrew Simpson Heriot, Verdon street, and 20/- in money from the Colonial Gas Association. The latter charge was the sequel to a series of robberies from slot gas meters in various parts of the city. In all, 25 cases were reported, of which accused admitted 12. The thefts had been perpetrated in company with some younger boys, who were dealt with at the Children's Court.
Waters, in a statement to the police, admitted the charges. He said he had wanted to get some money to go to the pictures.
Evidence was that Waters had effected entrance to Heriot's shop, which was unoccupied,
by forcing the back door. He had sold the lead piping at Rudd's marine Store, in Ann-street. The lads had shared the money between them.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3735466
Raised by his grandmother Sarah ENGLAND.

Williamstown Chronicle  14 Apr 1934
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article70728233
MAN COMMITTED FOR TRIAL
At the Footscray court last week, William Henry Waters, 25 years, of Stevedore Street, was committed for trial on a charge of breaking into the home of Sidney Edward Moore, at West Footscray and stealing £2.
Moore found accused behind the door of a bedroom. He struck him several times, with a pick handle and with the assistance of some neighbors, he held him till the police arrived.

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Re: Minnie Sophia England&Frederick William Waters in Vic & NSW
« Reply #17 on: Monday 10 October 16 05:00 BST (UK) »
Australian Electoral Roll
1925
ENGLAND Sarah Augusta  25 Nelson Place, Williamstown  Storekeeper

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