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Thomas Chalmers & Margaret Smith
« on: Monday 10 October 16 15:34 BST (UK) »
Good Afternoon

I am slowly finding family belonging to Robert and Janet Chalmers (previous post).

Thomas born 3.12.1826 Mid Calder married Margaret Smith daughter of Hume Smith and Isabella Walker in 1822 Edinburgh.

They had the following children

Isabel 14.1.1825 West Calder married a male Kilpatrick
Thomas 3.12.1826 West Calder
Janet 11.10.1829 West Calder
Hume Smith Chalmers 14.03.1836 Shotts, who married Elizabeth Easton 1861 Bathgate, he died in 1907 and had a Hotel in Greenock.
John 04.04.1833 (not known where)
Margaret 04.08.1839 Whitburn

Thomas died 1872 Bathgate death notification Isabella Kilpatrick - Daughter
Margaret died 1881 Linlithgow death notification James Wright - son in law

I would be most grateful for any further information regarding any of the above.

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Moo



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Re: Thomas Chalmers & Margaret Smith
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 October 16 16:54 BST (UK) »
Its taken some finding, but it was Margaret who married James Wight in Bathgate 25th October 1871. ;D. I'm still not having much joy with Isabel and a Kilpatrick, would anyone be able to check census records for me please.
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Re: Thomas Chalmers & Margaret Smith
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 October 16 17:40 BST (UK) »
Isabella Chalmers or Kilpatrick died in 1874 in St Giles (i.e. Edinburgh), aged 49. Her death certificate (available online from SP at modest cost) will confirm her parentage and the name of her husband, and whether he predeceased or survived her.
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Re: Thomas Chalmers & Margaret Smith
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 October 16 18:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you Forfarian  for checking.

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Re: Thomas Chalmers & Margaret Smith
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 October 16 19:04 BST (UK) »
Thank you Forfarian   ;D - That's the one, however something is written in the margin of the entry - which I cannot make out. His name is James Kilpatrick.
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Re: Thomas Chalmers & Margaret Smith
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 October 16 19:12 BST (UK) »
Got a copy of the report of corrections - can hardly read that lol, might be time for some new glasses.
I think that the report is saying that her condition at death was know to the Dr's .

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Re: Thomas Chalmers & Margaret Smith
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 October 16 20:42 BST (UK) »
Moo, from the list of children you showed for Thomas and Margaret, their daughter Margaret I think married a Robert Sutherland.

The 1871 census shows:

Thomas Chalmers 74
Margaret Chalmers 73
Isabella Chalmers 46
Mary Sutherland 2 grandchild....maybe this entry for Mary? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYSQ-3PT

Address: 22 Mid St, Bathgate

Marriage here to let you check further on SP https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYWS-5MT

Another daughter called Margaret Smith Sutherland which helps further to firm up https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQS9-65J Was Margaret widowed soon and remarried James Wright in 1871?

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Re: Thomas Chalmers & Margaret Smith
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 October 16 21:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you Monical

 I found the marriage of Margaret to James Wight, the son in law on the death certificate for Margaret (smith) Chalmers.  Margaret is aged 31 and James is 23. I have doubled checked and is states that Margaret was a spinster.

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Re: Thomas Chalmers & Margaret Smith
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 October 16 21:11 BST (UK) »
Might be worth checking that Sutherland/Chalmers marriage. As I added above, at least two daughters from that marriage. With one, Mary Sutherland, showing with grandparents Thomas and Margaret Chalmers in 1871.The other Sutherland daughter, Margaret Smith Sutherland is also a big additonal clue...

Son John born 1833 married a Mary Ann Ferguson. I think this is their marriage in Glasgow in 1856 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTYW-GLZ

1861 here:

John Chalmers 27 joiner b. East Calder, Edinburghshire
Mary Ann Chalmers 24
John Chalmers 4
Thomas Chalmers 1 Month

Address: South Bridge St, Bathgate

Children's birth showing on the FS index here www.rootschat.com/links/01in9/

Monica
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