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Marriage for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins
« on: Tuesday 11 October 16 19:58 BST (UK) »
Hi There
Anyone be able to help me i'm seeking marriage record details for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins married in July 1874 in Cardiff. She was from Llanharry he from East Dean Gloucestershire
I have marriage Register but wonder if there is a parish book detail which lists her parents
Thanks
Darren

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Re: Marriage for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 20:22 BST (UK) »
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Re: Marriage for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 20:24 BST (UK) »
Where did you find the information that mary was b Llanharry??

1881 census gives her p.o.b. as Glamorgan (no other details)
by 1891 census Mary had died and son llewellyn (age 10mths in 1881) was in Glos County Lunatic Asylum -
1891Tom Yemm is a widower and 5 of the children are living with him

There is a tree on A*****y which gives Mary's p.o.b. as Llanharry and her parents as David Hopkin and Ann Davies
Possibility as Tom and Mary's eldest son was named David
I don't know how well sourced the tree is - parish registers should give details of father and occupation and witnesses are sometimes relatives - but if you only have the marriage registration then that gives a 3 month period when they could have married and at any Church/chapel/ register office in the Cardiff registration district -which coud be a difficult search
Marriage certs can be purchased online from GRO at a cost of under 10 - sometimes "key" certificates are needed to be more certain the correct family is being followed

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Re: Marriage for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 20:34 BST (UK) »
On 1861 census as far as i remember There is a Davies listed as a Grandparent on one of the censuses  so this sounds right
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Re: Marriage for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 October 16 08:15 BST (UK) »
My response from the other thread -

A tree on Ancestry has Mary Hopkins (born 1852 Llanharry) as the daughter of David Hopkins and Ann Davis - no date of marriage given.

1861 Census listed on the tree RG9 4076 folio 20 page 10.  Mary can be found next door to David and Ann as granddaughter.

Obviously the information requires verification.




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Re: Marriage for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 October 16 12:34 BST (UK) »
Hi There
Anyone be able to help me i'm seeking marriage record details for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins married in July 1874 in Cardiff. She was from Llanharry he from East Dean Gloucestershire
I have marriage Register but wonder if there is a parish book detail which lists her parents
Thanks
Darren

what do you mean by "marriage register"?

I am having difficulty finding Mary Hopkins b Llanharry - the only one I have found so far is in 1871 census - mary Hopkins age 17 b llanharry occ Cook (in household of a Clergyman- no family with her

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Re: Marriage for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 October 16 15:31 BST (UK) »
Duplicate request, see:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=757396.

Just to underline this

We have two threads running alongside each other going over the same ground.

You really need a copy of that marriage cert to ascertain Mary's father's name before you can progress with any certainty. The census with father David has been found on both threads, but unless you have the marriage cert to confirm that "your" Mary Hopkins had a father called David, then you could be looking at the wrong Mary Hopkins. It isn't exactly an unusual name - and , as has also been pointed out on both threads (!) there is no accurate place of birth for her beyond "Glamorganshire" on 1881 and she has died by 1891.
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Re: Marriage for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 October 16 16:24 BST (UK) »
Darren:  there is one definitive way to solve part of this mystery :o

The marriage certificate for Thom Yemm and Mary will name the fathers - obtain it from GRO at a cost of 9.25.

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Re: Marriage for Tom Yemm and Mary Hopkins
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 October 16 16:50 BST (UK) »
From Gloucestershire bmd - http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

Yemm - Westbury on Severn, Newnham - mother's maiden name Hopkins

David William - 1875
Margaret - 1876
John - 1879
Llewelyn - 1880
Catherine - 1882
Sarah - 1883
William - 1884
Mary - 1886
Tom - 1887

Death:  Mary Yemm - 1889 - aged 37 - Westbury on Severn
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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