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2nd Lt George Badenoch Murray (189527)
« on: Thursday 13 October 16 14:33 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I've found George's Regular Army Emergency Commission (Cadets from O.C.T.U's.) w.e.f. 31st May 1941, in the Durham Light Infantry, promulgated in the 2nd Supplement to the London Gazette of Tuesday the 17th of June 1941.

There doesn't appear to be anything else for him   ::)

His middle name is an unusual one that features in my tree with another of the same name (born Glasgow 1877 - died Vancouver 1929 married to Evelyn Taylor who served in the Merchant Navy and R.N.R. in WW1.

I can't find a birth for him in Ancestry or on Scotland's People and I'm fairly sure George and Evelyn didn't emigrate.

Can anyone help?

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Re: 2nd Lt George Badenoch Murray (189527)
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 October 16 14:36 BST (UK) »


I've found George's Regular Army Emergency Commission (Cadets from O.C.T.U's.) w.e.f. 31st May 1941, in the Durham Light Infantry, promulgated in the 2nd Supplement to the London Gazette of Tuesday the 17th of June 1941.

There doesn't appear to be anything else for him   ::)



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Re: 2nd Lt George Badenoch Murray (189527)
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 October 16 14:40 BST (UK) »

His service record should give details of his birth, next of kin, etc.
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Re: 2nd Lt George Badenoch Murray (189527)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 October 16 15:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie  and nanny jan

Unfortunately, George is too distant a relative for the MOD to release his records to me. I was just hoping someone out there may know something  :-\

I'm due to go to Edinburgh next week and will see if there's any records for him although my initial on-line search has come up with nothing.

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Re: 2nd Lt George Badenoch Murray (189527)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 October 16 16:17 BST (UK) »
Hi
There is this, not sure what seniority means,
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14637848
It may not be the George you are looking for though, perhaps the one who died in 1929.

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Re: 2nd Lt George Badenoch Murray (189527)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 October 16 16:56 BST (UK) »
SP has a death in South Cowal in 1989: George Badenoch Murray aged 69; and a marriage in Tradeston in 1945 (George Badenock Murray).
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Re: 2nd Lt George Badenoch Murray (189527)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 October 16 17:18 BST (UK) »
Cathy

The one you found in the National Archives was a Royal Naval Reserve officer whose date of promotion to Lieutenant (ie his seniority in the rank) dates from 24 July 1917 and is likely the one who died in 1929 as you have guessed.  He appears to have received the DSO in December 1917.

Chiad Ffear  - if you have a death certificate and he died more than 25 years ago then you can apply and get as much info as MOD holds. https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records.   I was going to suggest an email to the DLI Museum only to find it closed in March!  They wouldn't have had his records but may have had him in a list somewhere.
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Re: 2nd Lt George Badenoch Murray (189527)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 October 16 19:29 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone and thanks for your input  :)

I have the George who died in 1929 well documented complete with DSO so he doesn't "enter the equation."  It's the one I found in The London Gazette in 1941 that got my interest!

There was a (possible) link on Google to the DLI that included George's middle name - Badenock - but it wouldn't open - possibly as the museum is closed now!

Thanks ShaunJ for finding that 1989 death and 1945 marriage. I'll get them on Wednesday next week when I go over to Edinburgh. The "k" at the end of the middle name was obviously the stumbling block in my search for a marriage and I obviously didn't search forward far enough for the death.

I'll see how the funds work out after next Wednesday and may apply for the records, especially if he turns out to be connected.

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Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

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Re: 2nd Lt George Badenoch Murray (189527)
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 October 16 20:05 BST (UK) »
Hi again

I could be getting closer ... Thinking outside the box, as ShaunJ did, there's a 1920 Birth on ScotlandsPeople for a George BEDENOCH Murray registered in Glasgow, Plantation.

Search is added to Wednesday's list of  "questions to be answered"

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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited!

Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk