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Offline BBaxter

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Lennon and Burns Family in Monaghan
« on: Friday 14 October 16 20:24 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Thank you for this forum. Always most grateful for help. Looking for info on my 2nd Great Grandmother, Catherine Burns. Could this be Monaghan, Castleshane in census trascript?

Where born:
Monagan Casth Slens, Ireland

Her mother was Rose Lennen and father Henry Burns. Catherine Burns married James Paterson and I find them both in Scotland census.

Are the surnames Lennen and Burns from Monaghan? Thank you very much, Barbara
Scotland: Baxter,Paterson,Brown, Hunter, Main, Grant, Fraser, Bain, Sharp,
Ireland: Millar, Wilkinson, Burchill, Devany, Burns, Hegarty, Ward, Lennen, Conley
Sheffield,England: Rollinson, Platts, Crofts

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Re: Lennon and Burns Family in Monaghan
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 October 16 20:48 BST (UK) »
What do Scottish census records give for her place of birth? if she was alive in 1911 that census may list a more exact place- or is that where you got "Monagan Casth Slens, Ireland"? if so, you need to look at the original image rather than a transcript.

You haven't given any indication of when she was born. If before 1864 there will be no birth certificate so you'll need to search for church records to see if there's a baptismal record.
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Re: Lennon and Burns Family in Monaghan
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 October 16 21:03 BST (UK) »
Thank you,

Catherine Burns was born in 1835. The 1871 Scotland census had:  Where born
Monagan Casth Slens, Ireland

All the other census just say Ireland so this is the only clue to narrow it down.  Castleshane seemed closest guess but you are right I may have to go for the original. She died in 1896 so no luck with later census. Thank you very much, Barbara
Scotland: Baxter,Paterson,Brown, Hunter, Main, Grant, Fraser, Bain, Sharp,
Ireland: Millar, Wilkinson, Burchill, Devany, Burns, Hegarty, Ward, Lennen, Conley
Sheffield,England: Rollinson, Platts, Crofts

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Re: Lennon and Burns Family in Monaghan
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 October 16 21:08 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately she was born well before the start of birth registration and not all church records go back that far it may be difficult to find her family in Ireland.

If she was Catholic you can see what church records are online-
http://registers.nli.ie/
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Re: Lennon and Burns Family in Monaghan
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 October 16 18:31 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Tried to find original transcript for the 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription. The closest I could get makes it even more confusing. Would anyone know what this means: MONAGHAN CASTLE CLYNE IRELAND 

Thank you very much, Barbara

1871 Census details
First name(s)   Catherine
Last name   Paterson
Relationship   Wife
Marital status   Married
Gender   Female
Age   37
Birth year   1834
Occupation   -
Birth town   -
Birth county   -
Birth place   -
Birth place other as transcribed   MONAGHAN CASTLE CLYNE IRELAND
House number   2
House name   -
Street   North Charlotte Street
Parish   St Nicholas
Town   Aberdeen
City   -
County   Aberdeenshire
Country   Scotland
Registration district   St Nicholas
Archive reference   RG10
Piece number   -
Folio   -
Page   -
Record set   1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category   Census, Land & Substitutes
Subcategory   Census
Collections from   United Kingdom
Scotland: Baxter,Paterson,Brown, Hunter, Main, Grant, Fraser, Bain, Sharp,
Ireland: Millar, Wilkinson, Burchill, Devany, Burns, Hegarty, Ward, Lennen, Conley
Sheffield,England: Rollinson, Platts, Crofts

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Re: Lennon and Burns Family in Monaghan
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 October 16 18:33 BST (UK) »
You need to look at the ORIGINAL record on Scotland's People- not another transcription.
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Re: Lennon and Burns Family in Monaghan
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 October 16 19:19 BST (UK) »
Hello again,

Took a bit but I found it!! The 1871 census for Catherine Paterson. Can make out the Monaghan but can't make out rest. Most grateful for any help with the transcribing. Census attatched. Thank you very much! Barbara
Scotland: Baxter,Paterson,Brown, Hunter, Main, Grant, Fraser, Bain, Sharp,
Ireland: Millar, Wilkinson, Burchill, Devany, Burns, Hegarty, Ward, Lennen, Conley
Sheffield,England: Rollinson, Platts, Crofts

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Re: Lennon and Burns Family in Monaghan
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 October 16 19:45 BST (UK) »
Monagass(not sure yet) Castle,
Clare,
Ireland.
Might just be me but I can't see Monaghan on that at all.

I shall watch with interest.

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Re: Lennon and Burns Family in Monaghan
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 October 16 19:50 BST (UK) »
You're only allowed to post a small portion for deciphering purposes.

I think it says Monagan [Monaghan] Castle blanie [Castleblayney].

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0294
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