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Re: Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 27 October 16 17:58 BST (UK) »
Just realised that I'd not replied publically to Betty's query re George Evans and Gladstone, although I've sent Betty some info.

It was related to Gladstone's Midlothian Campaign. George Evans proposed a collection towards the campaign.

http://www.liberalhistory.org.uk/history/the-midlothian-campaign/

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Re: Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 27 October 16 18:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Betty and Gadget,

Sorry I haven't been able to find anything else regarding George Evans or the exact location on Kirkwynd where he lived.
However if I do I shall let you know.

Lucy

Thank you Lucy & also Gadget for trying to help me with this even though I still don't know.What Gadget found showed George Evans character to me to some degree for which I am very grateful.

Betty
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm
« Reply #11 on: Friday 28 October 16 01:53 BST (UK) »
My paternal grandmother Emma Evans was born at Kirk Wynd Langholm Dumfries @ 2.30 on 23.Nov 1879.
Parents were George Evans(painter) & Sarah Elizabeth Evans nee Sinclair.
The problem I have got is there is no number or name of the house in Kirk Wynd .
Can anyone help me with this please.

Hi bettyespana. Like you I've had some ancestors live at Kirk Wynd and without knowing the numbers, I took these photos of the street on my visit last year. Langholm's a gorgeous place.

https://imgur.com/a/ngwmK

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Re: Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm
« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 October 16 02:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Betty,

You may be able to narrow down the abode by looking at previous (1871) & next census (1881) records.

If you find all the families in 1st census you can check who's still there in next census & who's a newcomer?

May help a little?

You can use freecen to give you an idea initially.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm
« Reply #13 on: Friday 28 October 16 07:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Betty,

You may be able to narrow down the abode by looking at previous (1871) & next census (1881) records.

If you find all the families in 1st census you can check who's still there in next census & who's a newcomer?

May help a little?

You can use freecen to give you an idea initially.

Annie

Thank you for your input but I have already done this.In 1871c they were in Salford & 1881c they were in Carlisle.George Evans (Emma's father) was a journeyman painter & moved about with his family.I have no idea how long the family lived in Langholm.

Betty
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm
« Reply #14 on: Friday 28 October 16 07:19 BST (UK) »
My paternal grandmother Emma Evans was born at Kirk Wynd Langholm Dumfries @ 2.30 on 23.Nov 1879.
Parents were George Evans(painter) & Sarah Elizabeth Evans nee Sinclair.
The problem I have got is there is no number or name of the house in Kirk Wynd .
Can anyone help me with this please.

Hi bettyespana. Like you I've had some ancestors live at Kirk Wynd and without knowing the numbers, I took these photos of the street on my visit last year. Langholm's a gorgeous place.

https://imgur.com/a/ngwmK

Thank you for sending the pictures of KirkWynd. I would really have loved to visit myself but being out here in Spain & looking after my poorly hubby it looks as though I will not get the chance.
Betty
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm
« Reply #15 on: Friday 28 October 16 11:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Betty,

You may be able to narrow down the abode by looking at previous (1871) & next census (1881) records.

If you find all the families in 1st census you can check who's still there in next census & who's a newcomer?

May help a little?

You can use freecen to give you an idea initially.

Thank you for your input but I have already done this.In 1871c they were in Salford & 1881c they were in Carlisle.George Evans (Emma's father) was a journeyman painter & moved about with his family.I have no idea how long the family lived in Langholm.

Betty,

Sorry for the confusion, I was meaning the Langholm residents in Kirk Wynd who may have been there for the whole duration 1871 & 1881 & any changes in people could narrow which house(s) your family may have lived in?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm
« Reply #16 on: Friday 28 October 16 12:14 BST (UK) »
I checked the valuation rolls of the before and after period last week and there is no real info. It looks as if there was more housing added in the period.
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Re: Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm
« Reply #17 on: Friday 28 October 16 12:21 BST (UK) »
Gadget,

Maybe a look at maps for both years would confirm more houses (I'm no good with maps), Sorry  :-[

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"