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Re: John Peters-Overton Flintshire 1841.
« Reply #18 on: Monday 24 October 16 08:59 BST (UK) »
My focus on all this is trying to find further info for my relative Mary Griffiths born in Overton in 1805.I strongly believe this Mary was the Mother of a John Griffiths born in 1823 in Overton.John going on to marry a Sarah Butler at Ruabon in 1846.

Was John illegitimate if both names were Griffiths. Mary would be c 18.
Does he have a father named on his marriage.?
Do you have  his parents marriage ?
Do you think father Griffiths died and Mary remarried to Peters.

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Re: John Peters-Overton Flintshire 1841.
« Reply #19 on: Monday 24 October 16 15:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks,yes this John Griffiths was quite a problem to me for quite sometime.Though I knew that his Marriage Cert said that his father was given as  a Richard Griffiths,it appears that this was highly deceptive.I looked for quite a few years in the Overton area for a baptism of a John Griffiths with father Richard.Some time later i seen the baptism in 1823 of a John to a Mary Griffiths single woman.I'm assuming that the Mary is the Mary baptised in 1805 to a Richard Griffiths and a Sarah Newnes who married in 1804.

This Richard and Sarah are my Greatx3-Grandparents,as I'm descended from their son Samuel baptised in 1811.Coming back to John now,though his father is given as Richard on his Marriage Cert,it is not unknown I've found in cases where the man is illegitimate for his Grandfather's name to be offered.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: John Peters-Overton Flintshire 1841.
« Reply #20 on: Monday 24 October 16 16:33 BST (UK) »
Indeed a sticky one, but I would say the only way to be sure  what Mary Peters maiden name   was is the children's birth certificate.
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Re: John Peters-Overton Flintshire 1841.
« Reply #21 on: Monday 24 October 16 18:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks and as you said a bit of a sticky one.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: John Peters-Overton Flintshire 1841.
« Reply #22 on: Monday 24 October 16 18:46 BST (UK) »
Going back to Mary Pearce,  there is one  is in this volume,  but no idea if it`s a B, M or D.
May be worth looking at.
Parish registers
Key. 6 Isycoed Baptisms 1749-1813 Marriages 1750-1837 Burials 1750-1813
6 Isycoed: Mary; PEARCE

http://www.clwydsurnames.org.uk/P.html
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Re: John Peters-Overton Flintshire 1841.
« Reply #23 on: Monday 24 October 16 20:37 BST (UK) »
Could well be of interest,thankks.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: John Peters-Overton Flintshire 1841.
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 10 November 16 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Using the new GRO search gives these birth results.
PETERS, ELIZABETH      MMN    PEIRCE   
GRO Reference: 1838  M Quarter in ELLESMERE UNION  Volume 18  Page 64

PETERS, JOHN      MMN    PIERCE   
GRO Reference: 1840  M Quarter in ELLESMERE UNION  Volume 18  Page 67 



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Re: Mary Pearce, clwydsurnames.org.uk
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 10 November 16 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Here are the details from my ref. 6 Isycoed

2 Jul 1827 mar by Banns of John MOSTIN (x) of Erbistock & Mary PEARCE (x) otp
                                        Wits: John EVANS, Elizabeth BETTERLEY (x), William SNAPE



HTH

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Re: Mary Pearce, clwydsurnames.org.uk
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 10 November 16 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Here are the details from my ref. 6 Isycoed

2 Jul 1827 mar by Banns of John MOSTIN (x) of Erbistock & Mary PEARCE (x) otp
                                        Wits: John EVANS, Elizabeth BETTERLEY (x), William SNAPE



HTH

jillrose

Very interesting thanks.

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William Russell  Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk