But ..what happened to the babies ...?

[brigidmac]

I  can't get over how alike the Charlotte in papers is to.me

One newspaper talked of a baby boy almost same age as Jessie. .I'm wondering if this could have been Michael Eric Benjamin    was he acruelly a twin

Lottie legalitarian marrived Edwin hymen BENJAMIN 

But as he went to an asylum . Was wondering for if

[brigidmac]

Re reading this 2016 topic due to renewed interest

I see that I didn't finish the last sentence & was having computer and or visual problems


So Lottie married Edwin BENJAMIN who was twenty years older than her and  stayed in an asylum shortly after his son was born .

So I fact our Lottie could have continued placing babies .

Jessie BALL never had any children .(# not Fred  !)
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The baby of lily Kitchen lived with his grandparents ..maybe one day we.ll find out what happened to others I do hope they had good lives

[Rosinish]

Jessie BALL never had any children .Fred Kithen lived with his grandparents

Brigid, can you tell us about Fred Kithen please as this is the 1st mention of his name?

The only Fred on this thread was Fred Greatbank(s).

Annie

[brigidmac]

Oh dear
I'm sure the Kitchen /Kitching baby wad named somewhere

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I mixed up first name it was a

You are right Fred Greatbanks was Jessie Smith's first husband

I.ll have to read whole thread to find first name  *baby Harry
was the son  of lily kit hen whose grandmother reported the couple when she didn't get second payment

Newspapers reported baby as dying  in workhouse but that was untrue

Baby not named in any articles.
the radio show was brilliant did anyone hear it ?

Richard tisdale & team identified lily kitching s parents and found "baby H" living with them in 1911

He married and has living grandson + whose son & myself
  were  interviewd on the radio show

The blog with pics is amazing too.

[Rosinish]

Brigid, this is what you posted...

"Henry Leighton Kitchen living with his grandparents  Tom and Francis Kitchen  in 1911"

Annie

[brigidmac]

Thanks Annie
&
I'm trying to do 3 things at once and internet particularly slow

He's not on any trees because not related .

Thanks for your enthusiasm .help and patience following this story since 2016 !

Neverdidfind anymore about actress Lottie pearcey b Birkenhead 1881

Or Shropshire Lottie /Jessie Bourne b 1906...mother of Jessie

Were they one and same person as Charlotte Roberts 1881 mother of maisie Fellman ROBERTS 1899 + Eric
Michael BENJAMIN / (later BENNETT) b 1906

[guest259648]

Heres one of the reports

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4176824/4176826/30/

Does anyone think the lady pictured  looks like either of the ladies on my avatar? I.ll try and post a better pic

brigidmac
Can you supply a bigger copy of your avatar photo? (e.g. email me one?)

I've read the newspaper report and it definitely does sound like England (e.g. it mentions Bedminster, Bristol).

I used to work in Shrewsbury Shropshire UK.

I will search for Lottie and report back.

D x

[guest259648]

Here is the link to looking for. Charlotte Roberts

The refs to Lottie Bourne occur on page 9

I was sure her age had been given as 20 somewhere

But no I've seen the description from a 1907 newspaper saying her baby had been born in 1907 I know to take a dollop of salt with dates ...of course I would love a time travelling great gma

brigidmac

There's a Lottie J Bourne (indexed as Lottie S Bourne elsewhere but the J is prob. correct)

1891 census she's with James + Mary Bourne (James is carpenter)
1901 also same parents

Earlier census she seems to be born Shrops aged 6 but later one aged 16 it says born London, and there's also another younger child born Lancs...

This is WROCKWARDINE which is Telford/Wrekin area but would most definitely include Shrewsbury Salop/Shrops as a place you 'came from'...

I have no idea how to show the links back to the censuses but I've looked at them on Ancestry just  now.
D

[brigidmac]

Thanks for your interest Dulcie and
For your offer of facial recognition help
At the time i posted it was a different close up profile of my grandmother
I.ll send you the link to my ancestry tree so you can see photos
Or via email

Update : look at the bbc blog by Richard Tisdale in reply 79

He did contact me a while back because there was going to be a TV show about this story but another story got chosen instead .