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Re: But ..what happened to the babies ...?
« Reply #45 on: Friday 24 February 17 07:40 GMT (UK) »
 kept in custody  during trial ??

If so would that time have been taken off the 8 months hard labour sentence


 
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Re: But ..what happened to the babies ...?
« Reply #46 on: Friday 10 March 17 10:47 GMT (UK) »
So far no-ones come up with how we can ger recordsa from Waltham Gaol Liverpool

but I'm sure someone will

My mother is getting books out of library and researching child trafficking in General

(i must give priority to job hunting + career development but am keeping an eye open on this topic )
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Re: But ..what happened to the babies ...?
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 11 March 17 09:30 GMT (UK) »
I presume you mean Walton Gaol Liverpool. Where was she tried? Also was it as Petty Sessions or Quarter Sessions? The reason I ask is that there are records for Kirkdale Petty Sessions which may hold more information.

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Re: But ..what happened to the babies ...?
« Reply #48 on: Monday 13 March 17 21:42 GMT (UK) »
oh wow ..thanks Gibel ..i dont know where she was tried I passed all my information on to my mum ..I'll ask her to reread what the newspapers said + i'll look for the prison record i found  .on FindMyPast..
wouldnt have thought it was petty sessions as it was such a big international scandal ..but who knows
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Re: But ..what happened to the babies ...?
« Reply #49 on: Friday 21 April 17 12:26 BST (UK) »
Are Kirkdale petty sessions available on line please ...I couldn't find them

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Re: But ..what happened to the babies ...?
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 24 May 17 09:24 BST (UK) »
Update .
No prison records available from Waltham gaol
Court records only give dates known already

It looks like  adopted Jessie Smith born Nov 1906 may have  married fred greenbank 

I can't find any children for that marriage

Mum has taken DNA test but we would need other grandchildren of Charlotte Roberts/Smith/Bourne
To see any links

Or ...of Herbert Smith  and

  Mr Anonymous who married Charlotte and had a son with her

 ( letter from Charlotte to her first birth daughter Maisie b 1899 asked her not to contact her again because  her respectable son not knowing her past)

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Re: But ..what happened to the babies ...?
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 12:28 BST (UK) »
Hello!

I work for BBC Shropshire and writing about the story for a history feature which will air in a week or two.

Very keen to learn more about what happened to  the babies. I would love to track down and speak to a living descendant. Is someone able to talk to me about it?
I see brigidmac has been heavily involved..

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« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 13:34 BST (UK) »
Just seen a friend request on
Messenger ...wondered who you were

It would be great to get the story aired 

Will pm you
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Re: But ..what happened to the babies ...?
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 00:55 BST (UK) »
I am trying to add the URL to the thread about  the actors

The court cases

The Grimsby child

Nana's story ..they should all contain links to the relevant subjects but there will be repetition
 
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=702286.0
 
I will find my notes about the names  mentioned in the court cases ...Mrs Ball was the lady who adopted Jessie

There is a Jesse smith  born 1906 who married Fred greatbanks a relative on ancxxxty didn't think they.d had any children

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