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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #18 on: Monday 31 October 16 16:55 GMT (UK) »
D'oh!
Sorry, Julie - had forgotten that was you.
Must have missed the death in your message too.

Like I said, not having a good day - too many irons in millions of fires just now!  :o

MT ;)
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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #19 on: Monday 31 October 16 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Given the information provided by Jomot regarding the 1871 census and the death in 1873 you might find it useful, having obtained the death cert from SP, to have a look at a public tree on Ancestry which has a lot of info on it and "compare notes". It suggests completely different parents!

William

Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #20 on: Monday 31 October 16 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Oh, yes, I've seen lots of trees on Ancestry where the parentage of this family is all over the place.
That's why I came to consult the experts! :)

Thanks to Jomot, I've also managed to pin down ACCURATE dates for the birth of the children - and also found a missing one! - which many of those family trees don't have, viz ...
  • Isabel Ross born 18 Nov 1814
  • Alexander Ross born 2 Dec 1819, Reay, Caithness
  • Walter Steel Ross (twin) born 23 April 1822, Reay, Caithness
  • George Ross (twin) born 23 April 1822, Reay, Caithness
  • John Ross born 5 April 1828, Portsoy, Banff
  • William Swanson Ross born July 1830, Old Machar, Aberdeen
  • Daniel Ross born 21 Dec 1832, Old Machar, Aberdeen
I've yet to work out the 'Steel' middle name of Walter Ross; no doubt that filters even further back into the family tree!

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DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #21 on: Monday 31 October 16 18:34 GMT (UK) »
The main point of my previous post was that the 1873 death cert.would be my next port of call - this will hopefully give parents' names.

William 
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)


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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #22 on: Monday 31 October 16 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Yes, William, I did realise that. :)

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PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 03 November 16 10:51 GMT (UK) »
The main point of my previous post was that the 1873 death cert.would be my next port of call - this will hopefully give parents' names.

William
OK, the bad news is that the 1873 death is NOT my Alexander Ross. :(
The one named on the register here is the son of Daniel Ross, shoemaker, and Isabella Ross (maiden name Ragg). He died at the Mill of Blairshinnoch, 22nd October 1873, where he was married to Jane McLeod, all of which goes to show that the 1871 census and railway gate-keeper theory are wrong.
The one similarity is that he was a Chelsea Pensioner, the same as my Alexander.

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Researching ...
PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 03 November 16 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi MT

Have you factored in to your deliberations that Jane McLeod was his second wife?

William



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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 03 November 16 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi MT

Have you factored in to your deliberations that Jane McLeod was his second wife?

William
Yes, thought about that, William, as that would make the death certificate - and all the 1871 stuff - correct.
But that would make the baptism wrong and as yet, I can't find another baptism to fit the 1784-1785 birth.
Another point that might just swing it towards this marriage is that he had children Isabel (mother could be Isabella) and Daniel (possible father), born to his first wife Jane Swanson.

It's the alternative birth/baptism that is going to be key, I think.

MT ;)
Researching ...
PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 03 November 16 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Given the information provided by Jomot regarding the 1871 census and the death in 1873 you might find it useful, having obtained the death cert from SP, to have a look at a public tree on Ancestry which has a lot of info on it and "compare notes". It suggests completely different parents!

William
I've just hunted this down, William, and I presume that you are referring to the Daniel Ross and Isabel Ragg tree on Ancestry, yes?
The interesting thing there is that they have MY Alexander down as a second son, but they have no confirmation via baptism. This tree has two possible births/baptisms which are both for 11th July 1785, but in different places and I can't find either on FreeReg or SP.
Mind you, I am still learning how to find my way around the latter!

MT ;)
Researching ...
PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk