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Re: What happened to John Cook & Frances Crowder 1812-1813 at Knottingley?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 October 16 09:34 BST (UK) »

There is a marriage for a John Cook who married a Charlotte Hargrave 1 December 1806 St Bottolph, Knottingley.

Can't see any children for them in Knottingley

Can't see anything for them at all :-\
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Re: What happened to John Cook & Frances Crowder 1812-1813 at Knottingley?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 October 16 09:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mark :) That's definitely them

Another John Crowder Will dated 1817 mentions John Bower, sons John, William and Thomas

EDIT: NOT SURE HOW OR IF FRANCES CROWDER KENT is related her brother was a Rev. George Davies Kent, another lengthy Will.
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Re: What happened to John Cook & Frances Crowder 1812-1813 at Knottingley?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 October 16 10:36 BST (UK) »

There is a marriage for a John Cook who married a Charlotte Hargrave 1 December 1806 St Bottolph, Knottingley.

Can't see any children for them in Knottingley

Can't see anything for them at all :-\

Thanks Claire

We posted together, have you seen my edit (last post) might be helpful to your other research?

Crowder joined up with three other Bankers at nearby Pontefract.

Pontefract is now on the HOOD radar, because I found this reference under Selby Abbey ...

Selby Abbey
Court of Honour of Pontefract to Constable of Brayton Holding of Court for Wapentake of Barkstone Ash 3 April 1798

The peculiar court came to exercise jurisdiction over Selby, Brayton, Barlow, Burn, Gateforth, Hambleton and Thorpe Willoughby.

The Honourable E R Petre, with M Mitton as his Steward [1816 to 1843 Edward Robert Petre]
Records of the Hon. E. R. Petre and the Manor of Selby Court indicate the Manor of Selby Court exercised control over the:-
Manor of Selby
Manor of Brayton
Manor of Thorpe Willoughby
Manor of Monk Fryston
Manor of Hambleton and
Manor of Hillam

Seems that claiming to the Selby Peculiar Court, that you were from the Jurisdiction of Selby in 1815, when you married, meant a huge area.

Regards Mark

Edit Wells Hood, born Dunnington, a Wine Merchant of Stamford Bridge and York, married a Bower I think.

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Re: What happened to John Cook & Frances Crowder 1812-1813 at Knottingley?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 October 16 10:51 BST (UK) »

Wells Hood indeed married a Miss Bower by licence (dated 31 Jan 1821) marriage 7 Feb 1821. Licence says Mary, marriage says Ann.

Childrens baptisms mother Ann, Non Conformist baptisms too


Thanks for the clip, I'm helping someone with a family in York that married into the Pulleyns in the late 1600's. Haven't traced them forwards yet, but they were quite a well known family in the area.

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Re: What happened to John Cook & Frances Crowder 1812-1813 at Knottingley?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 October 16 11:07 BST (UK) »

Think FRANCES Crowder can be ruled out, unless her husband was a FRANCIS.

FRANCIS Crowder appears in the Land Tax records for Knottingley 1809+ in property owned by Charles Searby,

so a man we are looking for :-\
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Re: What happened to John Cook & Frances Crowder 1812-1813 at Knottingley?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 October 16 20:42 BST (UK) »
Hello Claire

Thank you. Your 1809+ is before my 1813 Frances Crowder reference?

Regards Mark

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Re: What happened to John Cook & Frances Crowder 1812-1813 at Knottingley?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 09 December 16 17:46 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I was wondering what happened to John Cook after 1812 at Knottingley & then Francis/Frances Crowder after 1813 at Knottingley (who seem to disappear as Occupiers to the George Wilkinson property)?

Did they die at Knottingley, if so, their ages and when, please?

Also when this George Wilkinson of Knottingley, died / buried?


Crowder of Pontefract & Brotherton near Ferrybridge
Discovered quite some information on the Crowder family, who were Bankers at nearby Pontefract - Crowder, Perfect, Hotham, and Hardcastle and also dealing with Bankruptcy.

John Crowder was Deputy Receiver of Rents and Revenue of H. M. in Right of His Duchy of Lancaster for the counties of York & Nottingham. Also property agent and working with a Mr Bower.

John Crowder, Esq., resided at Brotherton near Ferrybridge (immediately North of Knottingley) and his address is also given as Brotherton Castle.

Thanks Mark


A George Hood was also an Occupier with Frances Crowder at Knottingley in 1813 (Land Tax, see first post on this thread).

According to a web-page on the Knottingley Brewery (link below), Mr Perfect must have jumped ship from Bankers Perfect, Seaton & Co., to the other Bank (mentioned in quote above) involving Crowder.

Carter of Potters Grange, near Howden, was involved in The Knottingley Brewery around the turn of the 19th Century.

http://www.knottingley.org/history/spencer/carters_knottingley_brewery_vol1_01.htm


It seems George Hood and William Hood of Selby, Brewers also held properties at Ousegate, Selby as Trustees. Hannah Carter Clark of Howden in the said County of York only child and Heiress at Law of John Clark late of Potter Grange in the Township of Armin and County of York Farmer deceased ...
was mentioned as one of the parties in the transfer of Shops, Houses and properties in Ousegate, Selby, to James Collinson.

The Ousegate, Selby, properties were later ordered to be sold by Trustee William Hood of Selby in 1864, after the death of James Collinson.


I can't help, but feel, that my George Hood of Selby is the same George Hood at Knottingley.


At Pontefract, Mr Pearson, Solicitor, married Miss Mitton, only daughter of Richard Mitton Esq. all of that place. Hull Packet, 12th May 1818.
George Hood of Selby acquired one of his Malt-kilns from Henry Mitton, Maltster of Snaith. One of the sons of James Hood, carried the middle name of Pearson.

I am going to look at these property Registration copies again and see, if there was more than just a business connection anywhere.

Regards Mark

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Re: What happened to John Cook & Frances Crowder 1812-1813 at Knottingley?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 December 16 21:10 GMT (UK) »
Brief background on "Mr Pearson Solicitor marrying Miss Mitton.

"Mr Pearson" was Mathew Pearson a Solicitor in Selby.  He was born in Laughton-en-le-Morthen (Rotherham, Yorkshire)  in 1774 to John Pearson (Yeoman) and Francis Sinclair.  He married Sarah Ann Mitton.

Henry Mitton, Brewer of Snaith married Mary Eaden of Kellington 1 Jan 1775.  He died 1803 in Snaith.   He had a son Henry born 1790 (farmer in Snaith in 1828).  His eldest son William took over his father's copyhold in Snaith.
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Re: What happened to John Cook & Frances Crowder 1812-1813 at Knottingley?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 10 December 16 08:17 GMT (UK) »
Brief background on "Mr Pearson Solicitor marrying Miss Mitton.

"Mr Pearson" was Mathew Pearson a Solicitor in Selby.  He was born in Laughton-en-le-Morthen (Rotherham, Yorkshire)  in 1774 to John Pearson (Yeoman) and Francis Sinclair.  He married Sarah Ann Mitton.

Henry Mitton, Brewer of Snaith married Mary Eaden of Kellington 1 Jan 1775.  He died 1803 in Snaith.   He had a son Henry born 1790 (farmer in Snaith in 1828).  His eldest son William took over his father's copyhold in Snaith.

Thanks Goughy

Oh that is interesting.

Mr Matthew Pearson, Solicitor in Selby who married Sarah Ann Mitton, was born Rotherham.

Also Mary Eadon (alias Eaden) who married Henry Mitton, brewer of Snaith, was of Kellington.


George Hood of Selby took over the Malt-kiln of Henry Mitton, Maltster of Snaith.
One of the sons of James Hood, carried the middle name of Pearson.

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A Mr Hood visited Samuel Hirst of Kellington in 1833 and George Hood sold a hunting horse, according to Samuel Hirst's Diary of 1833.
http://www.kellingtons-independent-website.co.uk/page52.htm

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Chester Newby, Miller, who was George Hood's Bondsman in 1815, was born Whitley, Kellington in 1790.
Also George Hood making his Marriage Bond to Robert Sinclair M.A., of the Selby Peculiar Court.

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Regarding Mitton and Eadon ...

Whitehall, January 1, 1836.
The King has been pleased to grant unto Henry Mitton, of Snaith, in the county of York, Gent. son of Henry Mitton, late of Snaith aforesaid, Gent. deceased, by Mary his wife, sister of Thomas Eadon, of Selby, in the county of York, Attorney at Law, also deceased, His royal licence and permission, that he and his issue may, in compliance with a condition contained in the codicil to the last will and testament of his maternal uncle, the said Thomas Eadon, henceforth take and use the surname of Eadon, instead of that of Mitton, and, further to evince his grateful and affectionate respect to the memory of his said maternal uncle, also bear the arms of Eadon; such arms being first duly exemplified according to the laws of arms, and recorded in the Heralds' Office, otherwise the said royal licence and permission to be void and of none effect:
And also to command, that the said royal concession and declaration be registered in His Majesty's College of Arms.



https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1A1KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=%22Arms+of+Eadon%22&source=bl&ots=G9781g11Ct&sig=4a256qOz7ZG4meZ6ZttUxqJODLw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwii-fH5junQAhXMJMAKHYQZDEoQ6AEIGjAA


http://www.heirloomandhoward.com/frmWorkDetail.asp?menu1=Gallery&menu2=HO&StockID=114

Clarkson to Hood
George Hood has taken over the Selby Malt-kiln of Henry Mitton of Snaith according to the 1833 Deed Registration copy, which also shows George Hood acquiring this Malt-kiln from John Clarkson of Newport, in the Parish of Eastrington, Farmer.

Also confirms that George Hood, was occupying adjacent premises of the Hon. Edward Petrie.


Trouble is with these Deed Registrations, they don't say whether property was purchased, bequeathed, or passed in some other way.

Regards Mark