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Cornelius Mahoney
« on: Saturday 05 November 16 13:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Looking for details for Cornelius Mahoney.
Looking for any entries to prove his  existance ;).   

We have no birth date for him.  Family didn't talk about him at all so we know very little, only what we got from baptism and birth cert. 

He is stated on certs as father to Mary Mahoney born August 1918, registered in Jan 1919 with birth given as Dec 1918.  Mary's mother Hannah Mahoney/Lane maiden name Murphy. 

If any one can think of any reason why there would have been such a big gap between birth and registration would appreciate suggestions.  Address given as Bachelors Quay, Cork.  Occupation labourer. 

We know Cornelius died but we don't know when.    I had thought that may have been the reason for delay in registration but can't find a likely death entry unless it wasn't in Cork. 

Rumour had it that Cornelius died and Hannahs children Hannah born 1911 and Etta born approx 1908 were put in orphanage while Hannah kept Mary.  Possibly 2older brothers also put in orphanage Richard b.1906 and Thomas b.1907.  This would have put Cornelius death after 1917/18.  This is just family rumour however. Hannah ended up moving to Preston Lancashire we think abt 1932 then was in London according to 1939 register with Dau Hannah and Son Richard and showed as widowed.  By that time Etta said to have died. 

I haven't been able to find a marriage between Hannah and Cornelius. He is potentially her third husband. 1st husband Dennis Lane Married 1896. 2nd husband Thomas Mahoney married 1906.  We wondered if she didn't marry Cornelius.

There was a possible entry for son Denis Lane in Irish army census in 1922 which gives next of kin mother Hannah Mahoney. Address for both is Evergreen St. Cork.    Checked this address out in 1911 census and bizarrely there is a Cornelius Mahoney and family (not mine) living in Evergreen Road which leads off Evergeen St but this may just be a big coincidence.  I had wondered if this Cornelius became widowed.  I do know in 1964 electoral roll in Essex Hannah born 1911 has a Mary Mahoney living with her that was supposedly a cousin.  There is a Mary Mahoney in this family in Evergreen but again may be a coincidence. 

Would appreciate any help to find marriage/death/ any info for Cornelius. I know there's not much to go on and this may never be solved.  Thanks for any help.
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SUTTON  Dagenham,Essex/ West Ham
AYLETT Dagenham,Essex
BARKER  Dagenham/Barking, Essex
PHILLIPS Suffolk/Stratford/Tillingham, Essex/Bromley, London/West Ham/Manor Park
COOPER Poplar London
LAMB Essex
HALL Stratford on Avon
SHEA Stratford/Whitechapel/Canada/Bantry Bay
MURPHY Cork
LANE Cork
MAHONEY Cork
O'MAHONEY Cork
SPENCE Cork
HARDIMAN London

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Re: Cornelius Mahoney
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 November 16 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
was Richard born in Mallow County Cork?
Also Thomas, was he born in Malllow?
Did Thomas marry if yes when and her name.
I may have found these two one has a marriage record on the birth record.
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Re: Cornelius Mahoney
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 November 16 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Birth for Hannah Mary 2.4  1911 gives adress Roches buildings Cork and Mary as formerley Barry.

Certificates can be viewed on line now at www.irishgeneology.ie

So you should try there.
There is a  1901 census for Roches Building with a Cornelious Mahoney born 1897 s of Jereome age 35 and Kate 30 which I'd also take a look at.

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Re: Cornelius Mahoney
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 November 16 14:46 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for replies.
Hi Maggsie
Thomas and Richard both born Mallow.  I found their baptisms on the website Ciderdrinker mentions. Thomas married Lilly and ended up living in Dagenham. 

Hi Cider drinker,
Thanks for looking but my Hannah definitely Murphy.  I have the correct baptism for Hannah in Spa Glen 9th April 1911. 

Thanks again for replying. 
SUTTON  Dagenham,Essex/ West Ham
AYLETT Dagenham,Essex
BARKER  Dagenham/Barking, Essex
PHILLIPS Suffolk/Stratford/Tillingham, Essex/Bromley, London/West Ham/Manor Park
COOPER Poplar London
LAMB Essex
HALL Stratford on Avon
SHEA Stratford/Whitechapel/Canada/Bantry Bay
MURPHY Cork
LANE Cork
MAHONEY Cork
O'MAHONEY Cork
SPENCE Cork
HARDIMAN London


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Re: Cornelius Mahoney
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Re: Cornelius Mahoney
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Re: Cornelius Mahoney
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 November 16 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sinann
Thanks for linking the old thread.  Didn't know you could do that :-)
Yes that's my Hannah  daughter of Hannah and Thomas. 
Thanks for the reply

SUTTON  Dagenham,Essex/ West Ham
AYLETT Dagenham,Essex
BARKER  Dagenham/Barking, Essex
PHILLIPS Suffolk/Stratford/Tillingham, Essex/Bromley, London/West Ham/Manor Park
COOPER Poplar London
LAMB Essex
HALL Stratford on Avon
SHEA Stratford/Whitechapel/Canada/Bantry Bay
MURPHY Cork
LANE Cork
MAHONEY Cork
O'MAHONEY Cork
SPENCE Cork
HARDIMAN London

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Re: Cornelius Mahoney
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 November 16 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if you already have this but we like to confirm what we are told, (we just can't help it)
Hannah Lane/Murphy marriage to Thomas Mahony
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10130/5685878.pdf

Her father's name of Denis could prove handy when looking for other marriage.

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Re: Cornelius Mahoney
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 November 16 18:03 GMT (UK) »
Is this Thomas' death 1912
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05361/4494823.pdf
Address Chapel Lane Mallow, they are not there in 1911 although there are Mahony's on the street, possible relations.
If that is the correct Thomas the next marriage has to be after 1912.