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Is Philadelphia more common than elsewhere?
« on: Wednesday 09 November 16 14:32 GMT (UK) »
Is the female forename Philadelphia more common in Kent in 1800s than elsewhere in the UK?
If so what is the reason for this?

Thank you for any help

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Re: Is Philadelphia more common than elsewhere?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 14:37 GMT (UK) »
I dont know the answer to your question - but I guess a hunt on FreeBMD would answer it fron 1837 onwards. However I would comment that I have found a whole host of Philadelphias in Kent, whereas had not particularly come across it elsewhere  before!!!!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Is Philadelphia more common than elsewhere?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 14:39 GMT (UK) »
Seems to be even more in Sussex?! ;D

In 1881 there were 782 occurrences of the forename Phiadelphia, counting 11 variants and obvious
misspellings and/or mistranscriptions.
Of the 782 Philadelphias, almost two-thirds of them were found in Sussex (334) and Kent (181), with only four other counties (Surrey, Middlesex, Cornwall and Essex) even mustering double figures.

Switching to the districts you find an overwhelming concentration of Philadelphias around Uckfield, Hastings, Ticehurst, Rye, Lewes, Brighton, Hailsham, East Grinstead and Battle (all in
Sussex) with only Tunbridge, Kent, intruding in the Top 10.

From the name of a city in Asia Minor mentioned in Revelation in the New Testament.
It means "Brotherly Love".
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Is Philadelphia more common than elsewhere?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to both KGarrad and lizdb for their kind replies.
 
I guess the trend would be the same in the late 1700s, early 1800s but why?
Was Penn (of Pennsylvania fame) from one of those regions?
or a particular preacher or religion?

Thank you. I knew I would find a statistician or two. Well done.

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Re: Is Philadelphia more common than elsewhere?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 22:27 GMT (UK) »
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Is Philadelphia more common than elsewhere?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that thread. will save the link

Summary of it
Religious name -- city of Brotherly love -- as most know
Possinilities:
Penn
Quakers
Puritans -- James I reign -popular Sussex and Kent
Hugenots
Aping popular gentry
after a boat

was popular Sussex and Kent in 1600s too it seems.
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Re: Is Philadelphia more common than elsewhere?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 November 16 01:04 GMT (UK) »


Was Penn (of Pennsylvania fame) from one of those regions?
or a particular preacher or religion?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Penn

The above link has a great deal of info about William Penn.
It notes he was born in 1644 at Tower Hill, London, the son of English Admiral Sir William Penn, and Margaret Jasper, from a Dutch family, previously the widow of a Dutch captain, and the daughter of a rich merchant from Rotterdam  and it gives info about his conversion to Quaker.

Google is a handy tool.

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Re: Is Philadelphia more common than elsewhere?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 November 16 04:47 GMT (UK) »
A long thread that may be of interest

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/soc.genealogy.britain/SPHC-oRYdWA
Thank you David

My own family has 2 Philadelphias. 1 born Philadelphia Shadwell in Bexhill Sussex in 1822. The odd thing is that the rest of the family has ''traditional'' names . Mary,Thomas, Ann , Henry and George all pre-born to Philadelphia the baby.

Philadelphias grand-daughter was also named as such in Australia Philadelphia Muirhead Munn b Apsley Vic 1884 m Robe SA 1905

Thank you
Genealogy-Its a family thing

Paternal: Gibbins,McNamara, Jenkins, Schumann,  Inwood, Sheehan, Quinlan, Tierney, Cole

Maternal: Munn, Simpson , Brighton, Clayfield, Westmacott, Corbell, Hatherell, Blacksell/Blackstone, Boothey , Muirhead

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Re: Is Philadelphia more common than elsewhere?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 November 16 05:59 GMT (UK) »
The fact that it is a Biblical name and the locations listed suggest Hugenots, but I haven't investigated further.
Researching Penge, Anerley, (incuding the Crystal Palace) and neighbouring parts of Beckenham, currently in London (Bromley), formerly Surrey and/or Kent.