Thomas Lane

[DownUnder70]

Hello all,

Wondering if anyone can help me. On my gg grandfather's 1906 Victorian marriage cert (Thomas lane) lists him being 21 years and his place of birth Dunedin with parents Lucy and John Lane. On his 1944 Victorian death cert it lists his parents as Thomas and Eliza.

In the NZ bdm there is only possible match, a Thomas Lane born in 1884 to John James and Lexy Lane. This is not my Thomas Lane. I found an obituary in papers past for the other Thomas and it said he served in WW1 and died in NZ on 1 Aug 1929 in Kaikoura at age 45. My Thomas never served in WW1 and died in St Kilda in 1944.

So it seems there are no registered births for my Thomas. That lead me to believe he could have been an orphan or illegitimate. I found several references to a Thomas Lane around my gg grandfathers age who had a brother John Lane in the Stokes/St Mary's industrial school in Nelson. In the Report of Royal Commission on the Stoke Industrial School Nelson page 6, a Thomas lane who was 17, explained his mother told him he sent an article to him that he never received. It explains she died in 1895 so it was never followed up. Also there was supposed to be a letter Thomas wrote in the Annex of this doc but it doesn't seem to be there.

The only Lucy Lane that died around that time was in 1893 and her name was Lucy Chiffinch Lane married to William Solloway Lane. I know these two did have a child called Thomas Henry Ellis Lane in 1885 but there was no sibling called John. So probably not the same Lucy - or illegitimate children of hers perhaps to someone called John??

The other thing that is leading me to think that the Thomas in the Stokes School could be my Thomas is because it mentiones in a papers past article that he was licensed-out as a butcher. My Thomas was a butcher in St Kilda and so was his son. Apparently they were both very solid/tall men about 22 stone, perfect build for carrying and cutting up meat. They had black curly hair and were quite tanned and so there were rumours that Thomas may have been of Maori descent but we are not sure. A DNA test would confirm that I guess.

My question is, where do I go from here? I live in Western Australia so unfortunatly cannot just pop out to the archives centre in NZ.

Many thanks in advance.

[Janette]

Hello DownUnder70 and welcome to RootsChat

I wouldn't take the information on the death cert as accurate as it will only be as good as the informant,the marriage cert information should be accurate as the information should have been given by Thomas himself providing he knew who his parents were.

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

The death notice for the Thomas Lane who died in Kaikoura states he was the 4th son of J J Lane of Milton

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT19290807.2.48?query=thomas%20lane

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

This looks to be the 4 children to this couple

1882/4966           Lane    Eleanor    Lexey         John James   
1884/13481   Lane    Thomas    Lexey          John James   
1886/4188     Lane    Edward    Lexy Carnigie   John James   
1887/4149           Lane    Charles    Lexy                   John James

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

Hello all,

Wondering if anyone can help me. On my gg grandfather's 1906 Victorian marriage cert (Thomas lane) lists him being 21 years and his place of birth Dunedin with parents Lucy and John Lane. On his 1944 Victorian death cert it lists his parents as Thomas and Eliza.

 There could be a transcription error and the Lucy should be Lexy

Cheers Janette

[Johnf04]

Are you sure the marriage and the death are for the same person?

[DownUnder70]

Hi Janette,

Thanks for helping me.

That family had 10 children. She is also referred to as Lucy in the NZ BDM site:
James lane 1871 (died 14 years)
Anne Ayer lane 1873
John James lane 1874
Marion lane 1876
Arthur sheppard lane 1878
William lane 1880
Eleanor lane 1882
Thomas lane 1884
Edward lane 1886
Charles lane 1887

I originally thought this was my family. It seems it is not.

My aunty said our Thomas lane died about 1944 ish in St Kilda and looking at vic bdm there was only one Thomas around the 40's from NZ that died in st Kilda. My Aunty remembers going to his funeral. Although the parents seem the same these are two different Thomas' I believe. Our Thomas's children were all bought up in St Kilda. We have electoral role data and also my father visited the house when he was younger and visited his uncles etc.

Hence why I am perplexed.

Sorry to clarify, Thomas is my g grandfather, not gg grandfather.

[DownUnder70]

Also to clarify my Thomas married Sarah Louisa Scott, who was from koroit in vic, in st Kilda 1906. That Thomas married Constance Eleanor baker in 1917.

[Lucy2]

Hello

Welcome to RootsChat.   

*  Could you please just tell us (from the marriage and death certificates)  >

-  the maiden surnames given for his mother (mothers - Lucy and Eliza) ?

-  the occupations stated for his father (fathers - John and Thomas) ?

-  Who was the informant at the death of Thomas LANE in 1944 ?

-  From death cert.  ... "How many years in VIC (or AUS) ?

   ~  Lu