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Re: Location Help
« Reply #9 on: Monday 14 November 16 12:07 GMT (UK) »
According to the new GRO index, the childrens' mother was Eliza Young.

HODGSON, JANE ELIZABETH mmn YOUNG
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in WIGTON Volume 10B Page 443

I assume that this is her baptism - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JW8X-2X6

This is probably her in 1841 - Earl Shilton and Hinckley are close to each other:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQY2-GG4

And 1851

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGFQ-L6R

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Re: Location Help
« Reply #10 on: Monday 14 November 16 12:07 GMT (UK) »
The 1858 Post office Directory for Cumberland, shows in the category Millers

Hodgson, R, Iveskill Mill, Sebergham.

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 November 16 12:08 GMT (UK) »
A long stretch...Hives Hill Mill, Sebergham?

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Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
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Re: Location Help
« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 November 16 12:25 GMT (UK) »
The 1858 Post office Directory for Cumberland, shows in the category Millers

Hodgson, R, Iveskill Mill, Sebergham.

Good find JenB   ;D  ;D
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Re: Location Help
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 November 16 13:03 GMT (UK) »
A long stretch...Hives Hill Mill, Sebergham?

Aha!!

In 1861 Enumeration District page for High Sebergham there is a Hives Gill Mill. But on the actual census its called Ives Gill Corn Mill.

Immediately before it are Church Town and Brow Top. So it has to be in this area
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102340803#zoom=5&lat=6203&lon=5084&layers=BT

Does Ives Gill = Iveskill?
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« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 November 16 13:21 GMT (UK) »
There is also a reference in the Carlisle Journal 30 January 1857:-

To let... WATER CORN MILL, with the Drying Kiln and other conveniences attached, called IVESKILL MILL, in the parish of Sebergham, in the County of Cumberland, now in the occupation of Mr. ISAAC HETHERINGTON.
...Mr. WILLIAM BECTON, of Sowerby Row, the owner.
 Sowerby Row, 29th Jan. 1857.

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 14 November 16 13:55 GMT (UK) »
With the benefit of hindsight the location in the snip David posted in reply #1 clearly says Iveskill.

If the location I suggested at Sebergham is correct, then this is the old mill http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iuw/

If you go onto google earth you can see the profile of the mill race running along the track which comes up from the south.

Edit No this is wrong, see next reply  ::)
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« Reply #16 on: Monday 14 November 16 14:22 GMT (UK) »
If the location I suggested at Sebergham is correct, then this is the old mill http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iuw/

If you go onto google earth you can see the profile of the mill race running along the track which comes up from the south.

Scrap that, totally wrong  ::)

The 1861 and 1871 Enumeration pages show that 'Hives Gill Mill' was on the east side of the River Caldew, so it can't be the one I mentioned earlier which is on the west side  :-[  :-X

In the same area in 1871 is Newlands, and lo and behold on the 1861 map just north of Newlands is Ivescale Mill (Corn). http://maps.nls.uk/view/102340803#zoom=6&lat=3826&lon=4024&layers=BT

Here it is on a side by side map http://maps.nls.uk/view/102340803#zoom=6&lat=3826&lon=4024&layers=BT

It's marked as 'empty' in 1881.

The OS maps indicate there is still some sort of building there.
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Re: Location Help
« Reply #17 on: Monday 14 November 16 16:32 GMT (UK) »
From the Carlisle Journal 31 July 1857:-

WANTED immediately, a MILLER, accustomed to Country Work. - Apply to Mr. ROBERT HODGSON, Ivescale Hill (sic), near Hesket-New-Market.

There are also notices for the sale of Ivescale Mill in 1863 and to be let in 1870.

David