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John DOWNS bn circa 1817
« on: Tuesday 15 November 16 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Looking for a John Downs born in Northenden, Cheshire in circa 1817. Possible parents are James Downs and Elizabeth Wroe. Need them on the 1841 census

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Re: John DOWNS bn circa 1817
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 21:36 GMT (UK) »
there are these baptisms
John Downes
29 May 1814
Northendon Cheshire
parents Samuel & Elizabeth

John Downs
born 29 May 1814
baptised 3 July 1814 Northen Cheshire
Parents James & Elizabeth

do you have John on later census or marriage ?

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Re: John DOWNS bn circa 1817
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 November 16 10:33 GMT (UK) »
The latter baptism is for sure the one we have
As it says he was born in Northenden, Cheshire.

His parents were James and Elizabeth AND they married in Manchester Cathedral in 1808

Not sure how or why one baptism says Samuel and the other says James as they are both the same baptism for sure. Obviously the transcribing is difficult to do

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Re: John DOWNS bn circa 1817
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 November 16 11:24 GMT (UK) »
The image (avalable on Ancestry) for St Wilfred, Northenden:

John son of James (Weaver) and Elizabeth DOWNES of Etchells, born 29 May, baptised 3 July 1814.

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Re: John DOWNS bn circa 1817
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 November 16 11:44 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Nearest I can see for father 1841 Rusholme Lodge Lancashire
James Downs 55 gardener n
to
John Hill 44 merchant n
with Elizabeth Bellis 31 FS n

other children at Northen Betty 31.101.1819 and William 19.8.1810 and Samuel 14.5.1809.

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Re: John DOWNS bn circa 1817
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 November 16 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Not sure that is the correct baptism.

Marriage entry at the Cathedral - 26 April 1808 - says that James Downes (appears to sign as Downs) is a Cordwainer of the township of Chorlton, and Elizabeth Wroe is a spinster and also from Chorlton.

Added:  Elizabeth makes her mark.

There are no names, signatures or marks for witnesses.

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Re: John DOWNS bn circa 1817
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 November 16 15:10 GMT (UK) »
St Wilfred, Northenden:

Hannah, daughter of James and Elizabeth Downes of Hayhead, born 28 February, baptised 27 March 1812.

Betty, daughter of James (Shoemaker) and Elizabeth Downs of Heyhead, baptised 31 October 1819.

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Re: John DOWNS bn circa 1817
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 November 16 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Ringway in Hale

Joseph, son of James (Shoemaker) and Elizabeth Downs of Shadow Moss - baptised 29 December 1816
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