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Re: Charlotte Pooley Born 1857 (?) - Please help me find this mysterious lady
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 21:49 GMT (UK) »
I can't find birth entries in the indexes for any of the Pooley children.

They were born before the law changed in 1874 making registration compulsory and fineable if parents didn't.

If this is Alexander, he seems to have been a colourful but troubled character, this article is recently written so maybe worth contacting the author

http://www.kingstonhistoryresearch.co.uk/advent-surburbia-thomas-pooley-railway-surbiton-1791-1856/
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Re: Charlotte Pooley Born 1857 (?) - Please help me find this mysterious lady
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 21:51 GMT (UK) »
That's correct Dawnsh, Rodney was her brother.  She inherited Pooley's Pavilion according to the 1901 Census.  The Charlotte Pooley of Torquay I believe died in 1944, registered in Newton Abbott. I believe she was a Charlotte Prout Pooley. 
This letter of my father stating she was 93 in 1946 JJ could mean she was born in 1853... if only I could find her birth certificate.

Rodney's last will and testament here http://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/collection/Details/archive/110107178?rank=

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Re: Charlotte Pooley Born 1857 (?) - Please help me find this mysterious lady
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 22:03 GMT (UK) »
18 July 1903 - Jersey Independent and Daily Telegraph mentions a Miss Pooley of Pooley's Pavilion.

So she's still in Jersey at that point. But where after that  ???

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Re: Charlotte Pooley Born 1857 (?) - Please help me find this mysterious lady
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 22:07 GMT (UK) »
There's no sign of her in England & Wales.

As she acted as Executrix to Rodney's will, Jersey seems to be a likely contender.
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Re: Charlotte Pooley Born 1857 (?) - Please help me find this mysterious lady
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 22:09 GMT (UK) »
I was unaware of this recent article, thank you Dawnsh. I have been collating information on this very colourful ancestor for the past 6 years, there are many, many newspaper reports on him, plus court cases, etc. and have also a book published by June Sampson (see Wikipedia on Thomas Pooley).  I have been able to find one birth certificate for a George Poolee, mother's name is Eliza Poolee, nee Wigfield, but gives the father's name as Rodney Poolee...who is a year older than George...
Seeing that 1874 it was made compulsory to register my chances of finding a birth certificate for others then are very small, but a death certificate should be more certain...This also explains why I cannot find a marriage certificate for Eliza and AGP.  Though I have a record of his first marriage.  Thank you again for all your help.
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Martyn - Lincoln
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Re: Charlotte Pooley Born 1857 (?) - Please help me find this mysterious lady
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 22:23 GMT (UK) »
The change in law generally relates to births. Until 1874, the onus was on the registrar to travel around his district and collect registrations. Marriages and deaths were not affected.

There's an excellent book 'A Comedy of Errors' by Michael Foster which explains why some marriage entries fail to get into the marriage index in addition to the couples who really didn't get married such as late returns to the registrar and mis-indexing.

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mikefost/
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Re: Charlotte Pooley Born 1857 (?) - Please help me find this mysterious lady
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 16 November 16 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all again for your help.  I have plenty more reading now to be done Dawnsh.  Thank you Jjen, for the entries in 1903 in the newspapers.  I was not aware of these.  More checking to be done.Oh dear!   
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Pooley - London
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Cannon - Lincoln
Griffin - Dorset
Poore - Dorset
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Re: Charlotte Pooley Born 1857 (?) - Please help me find this mysterious lady
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 16 November 16 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the siblings - Jane Wadbrook Pooley's birth was registered in Marylebone, Mar qtr 1843.

She was baptised at the British Chaplaincy, Bonn on 13 Aug 1861 - birthdate given as 3 March 1843.  Parents were Alexander Gossell Pooley and Jane, so presumably Eliza (much younger than Alexander) came on the scene at some point after her birth.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Charlotte Pooley Born 1857 (?) - Please help me find this mysterious lady
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 16 November 16 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Another child born to Alexander and Jane: William Alexander Pooley (1839, baptised in Kingston):

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AAlexander~%20%2Bsurname%3APooley~
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)