Sobieski Homer Pearson P.S

[gilesc]

Hello,
I am trying to find out more about my ancestor Sobieski Homer. She was baptised at St Thomas Dudley 10th March 1771.
She married Daniel Pearson at St Thomas Dudley 26th December 1788, the witnesses were Sam Raybould and ? Bond.
I am trying to find her death date if at all possible.and hoping you can help.


I have another Sobieski Homer,of a generation earlier marrying Samuel Holt, at St Mary's Kingswinford on 25th December 1769.

As Sobieski is a name unknown in our family a) I'm wondering where the name came from, and b) whether any of you have forebears with this name and would give me further inf.

Kind regards
Carolyn

[aghadowey]

Possibly the origin of her first name-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Clementina_Sobieska

[trish1120]

Quote from another Site;

Clementina Maria SOBIESKI was the wife of Charles James STUART, ie Bonny
Prince Charlie. After the failure of the rebellions of 1715 and 1745,
Jacobites (supporters of the Catholic Stuarts as opposed to the Protestant
Hanoverians) were persecuted throughout Britain and so they obviously kept
their views to themselves. But one of the small ways in which they did
secretly protest was to name their children Sobieski. I should have thought
that that would have made them very visible, but perhaps there was ignorance
of the meaning of the name outside their group.

I have a Sobieski in a distant branch of my own tree in the 1820s in Brierly
Hill. Whether they were closet Jacobites, or by that time just liked the
sound of the name, I have no idea!

[trish1120]

If you just put the christian name Sobieski in Familysearch.Org (no surname), birthplace Worcestershire, there are a lot of them that come up.

Trish

[gilesc]

This is a fabulous help, thank you so much.
Carolyn

[mutchall]

FreeREG:

County    Staffordshire
Place    Brierley Hill
Church name    St Michael
Register type    Unspecified
Register entry number    1019
Burial date    24 Oct 1834
Person age    63
Burial person forename    Sobiesketh
Burial person surname    PEARSON
Burial person abode    Holly Hall
Witness    
Witness    
Register note    
Transcriber notes

[mutchall]

Sobieski Homer : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=42879&ver=388698
Sobieski : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?name=Sob&Find=Find&pid=&userid=bcconnections&view=8&tview=0&wildchar=1

The first Sobieski(s) appear about 1718, mainly in the South East, a few in Cheshire and one in Cumberland. First for the Black Country is Sobieski Gennings, baptised 1722, Himley, to John Gennings and Margarett. There's also a Sobieski Holmer baptised 25 November 1723 to Edward Holmer and Ann, at Kingswinford.

[mutchall]

Because there's two Sobieskey Holmers baptised in 1749, it's difficult to distinguish between the two. However, a William Lea witnessed the marriage of Samuel Holt and Sobieski Homer, and presumably the same William Lea married a Sarah Homer at Kingswinford, 26 March 1758. Unfortunately all the Sobieski Homers also have a sister called Sarah. The Kingswinford transcripts don't record the witnesses until 1760, but can't say whether the same is true for the original, which may give the father as a witness.

[gilesc]

O good morning all!
I can't believe all the help you've given me, thank you so much. I will contact RO and find out whether father's name is given on the marriage of 1758.
Once again, many thanks
Carolyn