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Mary Reynolds of Kidderminster c1846
« on: Sunday 20 November 16 15:43 GMT (UK) »
I would be grateful for help in tracing the birth of Mary Reynolds and the marriage of her parents.

According to every census, Mary Reynolds was born in Kidderminster c1846. However, I can't find a baptism or a registration.

Her father, George Reynolds, is probably the person married to Ann in 1841.
There are baptisms for Elizabeth in 1833, Maria in 1836 and William Henry in 1839.
Again, no registration for William Henry or further trace of him and Maria. There is a record for a William, son of Benjamin Reynolds and Ann Turberfield.

These are the census details. I have all of the descendants of Mary, and those of her half-sisters, Jane and Eliza:-

1841 - Worcester Cross, Kidderminster
George Reynolds 25 b 1816 Out of County
Ann Reynolds 25 b 1816 Worcestershire
Elizabeth Reynolds 7 b 1834 Worcestershire

Ann probably died Q4 1847 age 32

George then married Jane Milner on 11th December 1849 in Stone

1851 - Chaddesley Corbett, Kidderminster
George Reynolds Head 36 1815 Factory Overlooker b Shropshire
Jane Reynolds Wife 31 1820 b Stone, Worcestershire
Betsy Reynolds Daughter 18 1833 Factory Worker b Kidderminster
Mary Reynolds Daughter 4 1847 b Kidderminster

1861 - Hoobrook, Kidderminster
George Reynolds Head 45 1816 Wool... b Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Jane Reynolds Wife 38 1823 Charwoman b Stone, Worcestershire
Mary Reynolds Daughter 15 1846 Scholar b Kidderminster
Jane Reynolds Daughter 8 1853 Scholar b Chaddesley Corbett, Worcestershire
Eliza Reynolds Daughter 7 1854 Scholar b Kidderminster

1871 - Worcester Road, St George, Kidderminster
George Reynolds Head 59 1812 Paralysed b Worcestershire
Jane Reynolds Wife 48 1823 b Worcestershire
Jane Reynolds Daughter 18 1853 Factory Operative b Worcestershire
Eliza Reynolds Daughter 17 1854 Factory Operative b Worcestershire

Mary married Henry Davey in Halifax in 1867

1871 - Worcester Road, St George, Kidderminster
Henry Davey Head 24 1847 b Near Skipton, Yorkshire
Mary Davey Wife 26 1845 b Kidderminster
Mary Jane Davey Daughter 1 1870 b Near Halifax, Yorkshire
Hugh Garthop Davey Son 0 1871 b Worcestershire

1881 - Hoo Brook, Kidderminster
George Reynolds Head 74 1807 Carpet Weaver b Kinlet, Shropshire (Paralysis)
Jane Reynolds Wife 49 1832 Wife b Stone

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David

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Re: Mary Reynolds of Kidderminster c1846
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 November 16 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Could she have belonged to Jane and be registered under her name (ie not Reynolds)

Have you got the marriage for Mary to confirm her father was George Reynolds?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Mary Reynolds of Kidderminster c1846
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 November 16 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Reynolds Male Kidderminster 1836-1852
Reynolds Female Kidderminster 1836-1852

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/kidderminster.html

HFHS have Herefordshire Marriage Index =1837 no entry
SFHS have Shropshire Marriage Index -1837 no entry
BMSGH have Worcestershire Marriage Index -1837 available at Worcester

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The only ones that I have trouble tallying with the census or a marriage are the Reynolds with Pitt or Gillam as a MMN.

One thing to watch out for is the child being registered without a first name, but there's none of that kind for Kidderminster RD.

The George Reynolds who married Sarah Nash appears to have registered his son in Dudley RD but baptised him at Kidderminster, Saint George

There's also another child Sarah Ann who was baptised in 1843

05 November 1843, Kidderminster, St. George, Sarah Regnold (George & Ann)

REYNOLDS, SARAH 1 1844 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 313
REYNOLDS, SARAH ANN 4 1845 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 247

REYNOLDS, ANN 32 1848 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 305

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Re: Mary Reynolds of Kidderminster c1846
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 November 16 20:43 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Reynolds George Ann Kidderminster, St. George, Lion Fields 17th August 1833 Occupation: Spinner
Maria Reynolds George Ann Kidderminster, St. George, Lion Field 18th February 1836 Occupation: Spinner
William Henry Reynolds George Ann Kidderminster St. Mary, Constitution Hill 26th July 1839 Occupation: Spinner

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William Reynolds = Ann Everall
September Quarter 1838, Kidderminster RD

REYNOLDS, ANN EVERAL 1839 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 385
REYNOLDS, GEORGE EVERALL 1839 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 385
REYNOLDS, EMMA EVERALL 1840 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 392
REYNOLDS, ELLEN EVERALL 1843 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 381
REYNOLDS, CLARINDA EVERALL 1846 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 386
REYNOLDS, MARTHA ELEANOR EVERALL 1849 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 436

Name Age
William Reynolds 35
Ann Reynolds 30
Ann Reynolds 2
Emma Reynolds 6 Mo

 db=uki1841&indiv=try&h=11564713

Name Age
William Reynolds 45
Ann Reynolds 44
Anne Reynolds 11
Emma Reynolds 10
Clarinda Reynolds 5
Martha Reynolds 1

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=8887464

Reynolds = Farmer

??? Emma Reynolds Henry Margaret Kidderminster, St. George, Mill Street 28th September 1839 Occupation: Weaver

REYNOLDS, AMELIA FARMER 1839 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 384
REYNOLDS, ABRAHAM FARMER 1841 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 397
REYNOLDS, THOMAS HODGKIS FARMER 1843 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 399

Name Age
Mary Reynolds 45
John Reynolds 24
Hannah Reynolds 22
James Reynolds 15
Abraham Reynolds 10
Thomas H Reynolds 8

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=8888834

Reynolds = Gillam

Mary Reynolds Thomas Mary Kidderminster, St. George, Mill Street 21st June 1838 Occupation: Weaver

REYNOLDS, MARY GILLAM 1838 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 370
REYNOLDS, JANE GILLAM 1840 J Quarter in KENSINGTON UNION Volume 3 Page 268

Reynolds = Hall

REYNOLDS, EDWARD HALL 1852 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 194

William Raynolds = Maria Hammond(s)
June Quarter 1841, Kidderminster RD

REYNOLDS, THOMAS HAMMOND 1850 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 403
REYNOLDS, EMMA HAMMONDS 1848 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 411
REYNOLDS, WILLIAM HAMMONDS 1852 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 191

Name Age
William Reynolds 34
Maria Reynolds 35
John Reynolds 9
George Reynolds 7
Betsey Reynolds 5
Emma Reynolds 3
Thomas Reynolds 6 Mo
William Price 25

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=8875184

James Reynolds = Hannah Lamb
16 April 1827, Stone

Elijah Reynolds James Hannah Stone, Potmore 21st April 1839 Occupation: Sawyer Comments: Born 4th

REYNOLDS, ELIJAH LAMB 1839 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 377
REYNOLDS, EMMA LAMB 1842 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 395
REYNOLDS, NOAH LAMB 1844 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 357
REYNOLDS, JULIA HELLEN LAMB 1850 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 387
REYNOLDS, JULIA HELLEN LAMB 1850 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 388 Occasional Copy: A

REYNOLDS, NOAH 2 1847 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 363

Name Age
James Reynolds 54
Hannah Reynolds 47
Mary Reynolds 23
Eliza Reynolds 18
Elijah Reynolds 11
Emma Reynolds 8
Julia Ellen Reynolds 9 Mo

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=8874096


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Re: Mary Reynolds of Kidderminster c1846
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 November 16 20:46 GMT (UK) »
John Reynolds = Sarah Litchfield (or Lichfield)
June Quarter 1848, Dudley RD

REYNOLDS, THOMAS HENRY LITCHFIELD 1849 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 421
REYNOLDS, MARY ANN LITCHFIELD 1850 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 417
REYNOLDS, SARAH LITCHFIELD 1852 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 232

1851 England Census

Name Age
John Reynolds 28
Sarah Reynolds 21
Mary Ann Reynolds 1
Mary Litchfield 30

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=8880506

George Reynolds = Jane Millner
11 December 1848, Stone

REYNOLDS, JANE MILLNER 1852 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 209

Name Age
George Reynolds 45
Jane Reynolds 38
Mary Reynolds 15
Jane Reynolds 8
Eliza Reynolds 7

 db=uki1861&indiv=try&h=20697662

George Reynolds = Sarah Nash
28 February 1837, Ribbesford

Charlotte Reynolds George Sarah Kidderminster, St. George, Lion Field 21st May 1838 Occupation: Carpenter
Edwin Reynolds George Sarah Kidderminster, St. George, George Street 14th December 1839 Occupation: Carpenter

REYNOLDS, EDWIN NASH 1839 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 261
REYNOLDS, GEORGE JOHN NASH 1845 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 379
REYNOLDS, SARAH ANN NASH 1846 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 380

REYNOLDS, EDWIN 5 1845 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 285

Name Age
George Reynolds 35
Sarah Reynolds 35
Charlotte Reynolds 13
George Reynolds 6
Sarah Ann Reynolds 4

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=8802477

Reynolds = Pitt

REYNOLDS, GEORGE PITT 1839 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 358
REYNOLDS, ANN PITT 1841 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 344

REYNOLDS, GEORGE 0 1839 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 221


Thomas Reynolds = Mary Smith
29 May 1822, Kidderminster

REYNOLDS, HENRY LEWIS SMITH 1838 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 357
REYNOLDS, ISAIAH LEWIS SMITH 1840 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 382
REYNOLDS, EMMA LEWIS SMITH 1841 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 342
REYNOLDS, EDWARD LEWIS SMITH 1844 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 428

Name Age
Thomas Reynolds 60
Mary Reynolds 50
James Lewis Reynolds 22
Mary Ann Davis Reynolds 20
George Lewis Reynolds 17
Josiah Lewis Reynolds 15
Emma Lewis Reynolds 9
Edward Lewis Reynolds 7

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=8887106

William Reynolds = Ann Tombs

June Quarter 1843, Bromsgrove RD

REYNOLDS, WILLIAM TOMBS 1844 J Quarter in BROMSGROVE UNION Volume 18 Page 222
REYNOLDS, JOSEPH TOMES 1847 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 387

Name Age
Willim Reynolds 31
Ann Reynolds 32
Willim Reynolds 6
Joseph Reynolds 3

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=9000916

Benjamin Reynolds = Ann Turberfield
04 August 1839, Kidderminster

REYNOLDS, SARAH TURBEFIELD 1844 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 366
REYNOLDS, EMMA TURBERFIELD 1846 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 387
REYNOLDS, MARY ANN TURBERFIELD 1850 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 383
REYNOLDS, HANNAH JANE TURBERFIELD 1852 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 217
REYNOLDS, WILLIAM TURBERVILLE 1849 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 431
REYNOLDS, SARAH TURBYFIELD 1842 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 366
REYNOLDS, WILLIAM TURTERFIELD 1840 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 387

Name Age
Ann Reynolds 35
Sarah Reynolds 6
Emma Reynolds 4
William Reynolds 2
Mary Ann Reynolds 7 Mo

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=8878197

William Reynolds = Ann Vaughan
02 August 1846, Kidderminster

RAYNOLDS, ROBERT VAUGHAN 1847 M Quarter in CLEOBURY MORTIMER Volume 18 Page 43
REYNOLDS, WILLIAM VAUGHAN 1849 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 427

Name Age
William Raynolds 29
Ann Raynolds 29
Robert Raynolds 4
William Raynolds 2

 db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=8879859

Reynolds = Walker

REYNOLDS, MARY ANN WALKER 1852 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 209

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Re: Mary Reynolds of Kidderminster c1846
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 November 16 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for all of the replies.

Millipede - I have George's second marriage certificate and that of Mary, which confirms him as her father. I wondered about her not being the daughter of Ann but no illegitimate Milners registered at that time and it looks as though Ann died after Mary was born. Perhaps adopted or another different mother.

Mutchall - Thanks for the additional information on the baptisms etc. They seem to be the right family and the baptism of Sarah in 1843 also seems to tie in.
 I tried to cross-reference the names on the new GRO index but couldn't find any with matching mother's maiden names in the vicinity. I am begining to wonder if a registration took place.

 There was a strange case involving Mary's father-in-law, John Davey. He had moved to the area after his wife died and was walking to Hoobrook in 1879, possibly to visit George and Jane Reynolds. He was found dead in Hoobrook pool with no signs of violence, "except a superficial abrasion behind the right ear of mild character. Deceased had been suffocated by drowning. - The jury returned a verdict in accordance with the medical testimony."

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Re: Mary Reynolds of Kidderminster c1846
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 November 16 11:18 GMT (UK) »
I think I may have found Mary's baptism:-

Mary Raynotos, dau of George and Ann, at St George, Kidderminster, on 15th July 1846.

Still looking for the registration.

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Re: Mary Reynolds of Kidderminster c1846
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 November 16 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Edwin Reynolds was registered in Dudley, but baptised like his other siblings at Kidderminster. A similar situation may have occurred here.  If they were registered in Kidderminster, you wouldn't expect all 3 to have suffered transcription errors etc. So they were either registered outside of Kidderminster, registered under their mother's original name or not registered at all.

Search the GRO Indexes in neigbouring RDs (use volume 18, which should cover a lot of them) for the three children; William, Sarah Ann and Mary. Sarah Ann may have been born as early as 1841.

Try similar sounding variations (soundex) and phonetically similar variations (metaphone)

Use a soundex checker to make sure the variations of the name are captured

http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter

e.g. Raynolds, Reinolds and Reynold(s) return R543
Regnolds and Reignold(s) return R254

Copy the results and work through them to group those with similar MMNs. If all three first names turn up, with the right sort of dates, try and eliminate them by looking for them at that RD in the census.

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Re: Mary Reynolds of Kidderminster c1846
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 November 16 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the advice. I had done that a couple of times and wrote down the MMNs but nothing positive came to light. William may have been a late baptism and missed the start of registrations but I thought a match between Mary and Sarah might turn up.

Will have another go (or two).

David