Edward Thomas b. 1836 - picture framer, Montgomeryshire

[westernwombat]

I am looking for siblings (and if possible, parents) of Edward Thomas, who shows up in the 1881 census as a picture framer, born in Llansaintffraid, Montgomeryshire about 1836. He was then living in Ellesmere, Shropshire.

He married Elizabeth Lloyd, of Ellesmere, in Ellesmere; died in Ellesmere on 28 Nov 1926.

[Wiggy]

There is  one showing as Edward Thomas . . (but when you get to the reg. form it says Edwin   )
 showing on Ancestry for 1838 in Llanfyllin which is only a couple of Kms away.  Can't see anything closer.  it is after 1837 therefore just a registration without names of parents  . . still looking for someone earlier . . . .

There are several family trees on Ancestry but they all seem to be copying from each other and don't seem to have any back up certificates etc, apart from other family trees.  They say Father David, 1810-1887, & Mother Priscilla ?, 1812 - 1875.  No maiden name for mother.


Edward born about Oct 1835,  Llansaintffraid Yn Mechan, married 21 Apr 1857 Elisabeth Lloyd, daughter of Thomas Lloyd  (IGI)  The trees I have looked at don't have his death.  But they do have him as Picture Framer living in Ellesmere Shropshire

Siblings   Elizabeth 1838, Jesse (boy) 1841, Ellen 1844 Priscilla 1846, Pryce Evan, 1851.  These children are born/registered in several different places so . . . . 

That is something to start with, but don't take it as gospel until you've checked those facts.

Hope this is of some help -   What sources have you looked at so far?   

I hope I am not just repeating what you've looked at.

Wiggy

[westernwombat]

Thanks @Wiggy. I do have some evidence that supports your finding*, will follow up on siblings and possible parents.

* Edward born about Oct 1835,  Llansaintffraid Yn Mechan, married 21 Apr 1857 Elisabeth Lloyd.

Have census info from his later life which helps. But the marriage date was a qtr, not exact of course.

[Wiggy]

IGI family search - (Free access) shows birth as 17 December 1835

IGI also has two other children  David 1832 and   John 1833  both Montgomeryshire but different towns.  Same Parents

I think it is Llansantffraid - minus the 'i'  Just been looking more at IGI. 

Findmypast has the baptism record - not mother's maiden name though.  Father David was a sawyer.

Also from FindMyPast - Mother's name was Priscilla Price from Meifod Montgomeryshire - they were married in 1831.

[Wiggy]

Worth signing up to FindMyPast to get certificate of marriage which is there,  also record of baptism for Edward.  (I expect you know you can pay as you go for just the odd piece of info.)

Elizabeth's father was Thomas a painter by trade.

Banns copy is also available on FindMyPast for David and Priscilla's marriage.  Married at Meifod.

[Wiggy]

Been looking - reckon your best bet is FindMyPast - they also have the baptism records and you can download church records there for at least some of the siblings of Edward.

 e.g. David born 1832,  John 1833, Edward 35, Eliz '39, Ellen 43, all baptised in Montgomeryshire, sometimes at Meifod.

Can't find Jesse at all, nor Priscilla or Pryce with parents names - also looked in Shropshire - but not exhaustively.

[westernwombat]

Yes, I had seen from 1861 census  that Thomas Lloyd 68 was a painter and glazier, born in Ellesmere and then living at Watergate Street, Ellesmere

his siblings? You say that in IGI there is David 1832, John 1832  - both Montgomeryshire but born in different towns,  same parents - ? uncomfortable for their mother, if twins. 
(of course w/o exact birth date, +/- 1 year)

There is a Jesse Thomas b. 21 Apr 1841 in Ellesmere, at a FS tree.
I will have to visit my geni organization for access to some records (I am at home atm). But getting actual records from FindMyPast is probably worthwhile for me.
Thanks for your continued help over the last hour. Much appreciated.

[Wiggy]

I found David 1832[/b] and John 1833[/b] and found both their baptism records.  So I think they are ridgey didge - also Edward  and Elizabeth and Ellen - ditto - (not sure about Priscilla and Pryce and Jesse.)   
The towns are all in Montgomery so not far apart - Meifod was place for at least a couple of baptisms and also Priscilla's home parish at time of her marriage to David.  I didn't look for where Thomas Lloyd was born/working/living. 

I looked at Ancestry IGI and FindMyPast and found in this case FindMyPast have the best records for this shire - it isn't always the case, but that's where I found them today.

Good luck.  (I have subs to FindMyPast at the moment for a year . . Worth it if you have lots to look for - but I know you can also pay for just what you want - so maybe  that's be the way to go.)

Wiggy