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Clydebank 1946: Looking For Aunt Bella
« on: Sunday 27 November 16 00:32 GMT (UK) »
I knew I had an Aunt Bella who lived in Scotland but I did not know much about her, except that she was born Isabella Moore in Co. Donegal, Ireland in 1899. I found a letter written by Aunt Bella recently. It is dated 1946 and the return address is 8 Edward Street, Clydebank. She notes that her husband’s name is Willie but I do not know his surname. I assume that Bella & Willie lived in Clydebank during the Blitz but beyond that I do not know anything more about them. I have never done any research in Scotland before. Would it be possible to get Bella’s married name through her address and then possibly get a marriage and/or death certificate?

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Re: Clydebank 1946: Looking For Aunt Bella
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 November 16 02:26 GMT (UK) »
This is the site you need for Scottish research:

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

You need to register.
It is free to search and view the indexes, but you need to buy credits to view instantly dowloadable certifcates (depending on dates, some need to be sent off for).

Just to get an idea, I had a quick search for marriages between 1919 and 1945 for Isabella Moore (with no other search terms) and got only 48 results.

I did it look at all the results but two which stood out were:
1920 to William John Dunlop in Pollokshields
1924 to William Scott In Old or West kilpatrick
(There may be more)

Do you know her parent's names, so that you will know if you find the right Isabella? Did she have a middle name?

Once you find out her married name you can look for a death under that surname.

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Re: Clydebank 1946: Looking For Aunt Bella
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 November 16 03:01 GMT (UK) »
For deaths of women in Scotland they are recorded by their maiden name as well as marital surname.

The question is what her name was written as at time of death depending on who registered her death?

Bella/Isabella/Isa or other?

If you use the info. from Ruskie regarding a marital surname by searching for her under both maiden name & possible marital surname (separately) you can cross reference the dates/places to determine along with age at death & yr born.

From your info. of her being born 1899 & a letter received 1946 you should search a death between 1946 & 1999 (she may have been a centenarian)  :-\

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Re: Clydebank 1946: Looking For Aunt Bella
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 November 16 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Hopefully she was at the address you have in the 1939 register.
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
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Re: Clydebank 1946: Looking For Aunt Bella
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 November 16 19:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ruskie, Rosinish, & Youngtug. The 1920 & 1924 marriages are not my Bella. The best option is in 1942 but it falls just less than the required 75 years for viewing. Will all of the 1942 marriages be released in January 2017 or will only those from January 1942?

Is there any way to determine how 8 Edward Street fared during the blitz?

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Re: Clydebank 1946: Looking For Aunt Bella
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 November 16 19:59 GMT (UK) »
If you think the 1942 marriage might be hers, she would have been on the old side for this to be a first marriage in those days. Not impossible but .... :-\

Did her parents also go to Scotland from Ireland? If they remained in Ireland have you considered the possibility that she may have married there?

(I don't know how the release of records on SP works - but someone will.  :))

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Re: Clydebank 1946: Looking For Aunt Bella
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 November 16 22:23 GMT (UK) »

Will all of the 1942 marriages be released in January 2017 or will only those from January 1942?


skirl, the release of new records will apply to all marriages that took place in 1942.

Monica  :)
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Re: Clydebank 1946: Looking For Aunt Bella
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 November 16 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Skirl,

Edward St. is a short cul de sac at the east end, and north side of East Barns St. in Clydebank.  No8 is the southern half of a bungalow on the east side of Edward St.  It looks typical of a pre-war structure, and may be seen on streetview (second last building from the end of the cul de sac)

A lot of the damage in the 1941 Clydebank was in the central area of the town. a bombing run from the north towards John Brown's shipyard, was directly over the Singer works, and regrettably a fairly densely populated area of the town, so short falling bombs did enormous damage to civilian areas.

The attached ref is of a plan showing sites known to have been struck.
http://www.tommckendrick.com/code/blitzmap1.htm

Edward St. is just off map to the east.

The map only relates to the 1941 blitz, and there may have been raids at other times, but there are a great many sources where this information may be gleaned.

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Re: Clydebank 1946: Looking For Aunt Bella
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 November 16 22:53 GMT (UK) »

Will all of the 1942 marriages be released in January 2017 or will only those from January 1942?


skirl, the release of new records will apply to all marriages that took place in 1942.

Monica  :)

Hi Monica.  :) Can I just clarify please? Are you saying that all of the marriages that took place throughout 1942 will all be released in January 2017? (or is the release date not known as yet?)