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British regiment in Canada 1810-1821
« on: Monday 28 November 16 17:56 GMT (UK) »
I have found the military record of my 3G Grandfather in a document headed as follows :-

Canada, British Regimental Registers of Service
82nd Foot Soldiers    1810-1821


This raises some questions, namely :-

1. What were the British doing in Canada at that time?
2. Does it mean my ancestor served all 11 years from 1810 to 1821?
3. The Ancestry transcription of this states "Military Date: 7 Apr 1809". This is not shown on the original record so where might Ancestry have got that date from and what does it mean?

I'd be very grateful if anyone can answer any or all of these questions for me. Thank you.
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Re: British regiment in Canada 1810-1821
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 November 16 18:22 GMT (UK) »
If it the same as the records in this thread, than they were not in Canada.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=650749.msg4971722#msg4971722

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Re: British regiment in Canada 1810-1821
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 November 16 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Good evening,

The 82nd were not in Canada for the whole of that time. First raised in 1777 they were disbanded in 1783. Re raised on 27th sept 1893 they served in the caribean for a number of years then the mediteranean and north Africa. A brief sojourn in South America then both battalions were in the Peninsula where between them, sometimes both together, they gained battle honours for just about every major battle between 1808 and 1814.

In 1814 the 2nd battalion went to America where they were in action at Lundy's Lane (battle honour for Niagra). They left again in 1815, 1st battalion to India not sure about 2nd batt. But their next battle honour is Sevastopol (1855). They are reportedly back in Canada 1843-47 so that must have been 2nd batt.

So in your time frame they only spent a year in Canada, the remainder they were fighting Bonaparte in the Peninsula war.

John915

Added, Sorry, missed out Waterloo for 1st batt then Netherlands before going to India
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Re: British regiment in Canada 1810-1821
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 November 16 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Back again,

If it the same as the records in this thread, than they were not in Canada.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=650749.msg4971722#msg4971722

Sorry Sinann but that is referring to 12th foot not 82nd foot.

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Re: British regiment in Canada 1810-1821
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 November 16 19:14 GMT (UK) »
No, the 82nd were not in Canada during the time in question. They were in Canada later.

It's sad isn't it. modern Britain has no idea of it's glorious past. In 1759, 'the year of victories', Britain acquired Both India and Canada. Now Britain is dead in the water.
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Re: British regiment in Canada 1810-1821
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 November 16 19:30 GMT (UK) »
Apologies,

Just realised I was looking at wrong list, post 1881. Ignore all references to 1st batt, that was 40th foot. But references to 2nd batt are correct, Peninsula until 1814 then Canada for a year then back to Europe.

They have battle honours for Peninsula, Roleia, Vimiera, Vittoria, Pyranees, Nivelle then Niagara. All on their colours. Plus Sevastopol.

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Re: British regiment in Canada 1810-1821
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 November 16 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks John915 and Regorian for sharing your knowledge of British military history. It would appear from what you say that my ancestor spent just one year in Canada with the 82nd foot in the period 1810-1821. You say that the 2nd battalion went to Canada in 1814 so what do you think the Ancestry reference to "Military Date: 7 Apr 1809" means?
Andrew, Banks, Birchall, Burgess, Burk, Carnell, Cartwright, Clare, Costello, Cragg, Daniels, Gregory, Hague, Hamblett, Hardman, Jackson, Marland, Mee, Mollyneux, Mullin, Naylor, Orford, Owen, Richardson, Robinson, Smith, Street, Tyldsley, Ward, Whalley, Wright
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Re: British regiment in Canada 1810-1821
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 November 16 22:13 GMT (UK) »
No, the 82nd were not in Canada during the time in question. They were in Canada later.

It's sad isn't it. modern Britain has no idea of it's glorious past. In 1759, 'the year of victories', Britain acquired Both India and Canada. Now Britain is dead in the water.
   No. We are  NOT "dead in the water"

However, it is  a pity  that we do  not have  as many ships in the Royal Navy  as we did  have  32 years ago.
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Re: British regiment in Canada 1810-1821
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 November 16 06:49 GMT (UK) »
Quote
Military Date: 7 Apr 1809". This is not shown on the original record so where might Ancestry have got that date from and what does it mean?

These images are scans of open ledgers with the record continuing on the opposite page. Have you looked at the next image?
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